Imam paid $4.85M for Ground Zero mosque – in CASH!

Where did imam Faisal, who called America and Christians the first terrorists and whose wife is on an advisory team for the National September 11 Memorial and Museum, come up with $4.85 million in cash? And where will he get the $150 million to build an Islamic mecca planned two blocks from Ground Zero?

A reporter at Hudson New York has new information and asks, or says the people of New York should be asking, much tougher questions than the New York Times posed to the Islamic groups involved and the Mayor of NYC. Hat tip Gateway Pundit. Emphasis added.

Mosque At the World Trade Center: Muslim Renewal Or Insult Near Ground Zero | by Youssef M. Ibrahim

An identified group with unknown sponsors has purchased building steps away from where the World Trade Center once stood — to turn it into potentially one of the largest New York City mosques.

At the moment the building, the old Burlington Coat Factory, already serves as a mini-mosque: an iron grill lifts every Friday afternoon for a little known Imam leading prayers a few yards away from where Osama Bin Laden’s airborne Islamist bombers killed nearly 3000 people back in 2001.

The Imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, told the New York Times — which put the story on its front page Wednesday — that he has assembled several million dollars to turn it into ‘’an Islamic center near the city’s most hallowed piece of land that would stand as one of ground zero’s more unexpected and striking neighbors.’’

The 61-year-old Imam said he paid $4.85 million for it — in cash, records show. With 50,000 square feet of air rights and enough financing, he plans an ambitious project of $150 million, he said, akin to the Chautauqua Institution, the 92 Street Y or the Jewish Community Center.

The origins of such monies are unexplained; neither are the countries or entity advancing such huge donations. Most US mosques, including many in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx are funded directly or indirectly by Saudi Arabia the country to which 15 of the 19 hijackers who bombed the World Trade Center belonged. The UAE, Qatar and Iran are other major sponsors across the USA.

The money trail is an important question that must be answered by the Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg with more than a bland comment by one of his spokesmen, Andrew Brent, who quipped to the Times, “If it’s legal, the building owners have a right to do what they want.”

At the moment, the location is not designated a mosque, but rather an overflow prayer space for another mosque, Al Farah, at 245 West Broadway in TriBeCa, where Imam Feisal is the spiritual leader. Call this creeping annexation. On 9/11, the Burlington building, with 80 employees in its basement, is where a piece of a plane plunged through the roof, from either Flight 11 or Flight 175 crashing into the south tower at 9:03 a.m..

One of the investors for future oncoming funds is listed as the Cordoba Initiative, defined as an ‘’interfaith group’’ – and founded by Imam Feisal. Cordoba is the name militant Muslims often invoke when they recall the glory of Muslim empire in the centuries they occupied Spain.

As a former New York Times and Wall Street Journal correspondent, and as a New York Sun columnist who covered Islamic Fundamentalism extensively overseas and in the USA, I find the facts oddly lacking. The story as reported fails to answer, and avoid asking, so many pertinent questions.

The source of money matters as a significant part of the hundreds of mosques being built and already erected in this country double up as cultural Islamic centers for distributing literature– Islamist propaganda in fact—from Bay Ridge Brooklyn to Detroit, and for schooling growing Muslim minorities. They house Imams of unknown origin and education, many of whom do not speak a word of English but preach in Arabic and Urdu — radical messages, it often turns out.

As a reporter familiar with the Arab communities of the USA, I doubt the faithful fork out all that money for mega mosques, and if they did, the mayor’s office should prove it, not merely accept someone’s say so. It is an established fact that a significant percentage of the mosques built in the USA in the past two decades are receiving a disproportionate amount of their funds not only from the Saudis, but also the UAE, Qatar and Iran — all problematic Islamists activist nations. The government just discontinued work on a major Iranian-funded mosque and center in New York City, which had operated under the radar since the days of the good old Shah of Iran under the auspices of the Pahlavi Foundation, and has been owned since 1979 by the Mullahs of Iran.

The context here is that 15 of the 19 perpetrators of the attacks — on the very site where this new mosque shall rise — came from Saudi Arabia.

We saw how, in the case of Major Nidal Hasan of Ft. Hood, it turned out that three of the original participants in 9/11 had listened to the same preacher Major Hasan listened to: a man with a radical violent Islamic website now operating out of Yemen to radicalize American Muslims. In such a context,knowing more about the Imam overseeing a potential multimillion mosque at the World Trade Center site is essential to the story. Nearly 3,000 people were deliberately killed there – and the New York Times is papering over what is about to be built on the site in a nice, beatific pseudo-profile of the Imam overseeing the mosque? Limiting access to this Imam to some nice quotes, showing him nattily dressed in a suit, and describing him merely as a Sufi, is vacuous, crafted and couched in public relations spin to obscure rather than explain. ‘’What happened that day was not Islam’’ is all that the Times quotes the Imam saying — a rather lame comment given the enormity of his ambition and the iconic status of where he wants to put his mosque.

The mayor’s office should tell us more.

Just as importantly, who Is Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf ? And what is his background? Given that much Islamist radicalism originated in mosques at the hands of imams in virtually all the terrorist attacks in America and Europe — as we found over and over again – the omission of this information is a glaring mishap.

All we get learn about the Imam in the Times story about him is some anodyne, rather anemic, focus on a man of peace. No real searching. Mayor Bloomberg’s folks need to tell us what are the Imam’s origins, where he was schooled, whether he is an immigrant, a visitor, of which country is he a citizen, and what is his philosophy, among other relevant questions.

Merely describing the man as a Sufi ‘’who follows a path of Islam focused more on spiritual wisdom than on strict ritual,’’ is far too little . After every terrorist atrocity, any number of Sufi and Muslims savants ritually come out with the hackneyed saying: ‘’Islam is a religion of peace and brotherhood.’’ Accumulated as they are, these statements are added a heap of nothing for those tens of thousands of Muslims killed by other Muslims in suicide and other bombings from Pakistan to Iraq every day.

One would hope for a follow-up story or stories, and that New York City and its citizens at least ask harder questions, rather than submit to being mislead in the interest of political correctness.

(don’t hold your breath)

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, Founder, Cordoba Initiative; his wife Daisy Kahn, Executive Director, American Society for Muslim Advancement at State Dept. event

59 Responses

  1. Yep, its a tactic that is as old as the rock of the mount.
    Build a mosque on an others’ religious site or hallowed ground to obscure and overshadow. It is the standard muslim tactic for the ongoing jihah on our culture;Christianity & way of life.
    At least that idiot Bloomburg is not letting them build on the exact site of the trade center … yet.

  2. Where did the imam get the money? I have no inside info/proof, but here’s my prediction of the sources:

    1) Saudi Arabia (because there’s a precedent)
    2) Malaysia (just a hunch)
    3) Zakat payments from Feisal Abdul Rauf‘s own congregation & other North American Muslims…

  3. Excellent point Sid… would love to see a historical analysis of that…mosques built over conquered non-muslim houses of worship or cultural relics (Jerusalem, Turkey, Italy, India, etc.)

    American Delight – another analysis we’d love see is the funding of all the multi-million dollar mosques being built in every state in the U.S.

  4. Before you even questioned where the money came from, pls study his characters as well as his networks and connections. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is no ordinary imam. He is the descendants of the Great Prophet Mohammed (peace of God be upon him).

    Spend 5 minutes next to him without saying a word and you will feel that your spirituality has been enlightened…even for a while. He is the one of the leading Islamic scholars in the world tday that has the ability to communicate the real message of Islam in the simplest form. It wld be a great loss not only to the Muslims but in particular to the Americans if his knowledge and talent were not used to bridge the gap between Muslim and the West.

    Having said that, it is of no surprise that leaders and CEO’s around the world wld like to be associated with his work whether openly or discreetly. In his book, What’s Right With Islam Is What’s Right With America, he made a very controversial statement by saying that America is one of the countries in the world today that adhere to the principles of Islamic governance based on the ideals and aspirations of of its founding fathers. if one were to go further into his work, one would realized the importance and significance of his work not only to the Muslim community in America, but throughout the world and also not only for muslims world at large but also to the non muslims throughout the world.

    If there are no other Muslims in the world for America to trust upon, he is the one that none should distrust. So, do not be paranoid for he is here to help mend broken ties and heal the deep divide between us and importantly within us.

    As for the funds that he has gathered, a man of his stature cld raise any amount for his noble cause in a very short time.

  5. Spare us the taqiyya, Ahmad.

    “It wld be a great loss not only to the Muslims but in particular to the Americans if his knowledge and talent were not used to bridge the gap between Muslim and the West.”

    No need to bridge the gap between muslim and the West. They are not compatible. Not now, not before, not ever.

  6. This post reminds me of something my Uncle Rick once said…

    if a sweat shop factory had air conditioning would it still be called a sweat shop?

  7. Maybe they got stimulus money from Obama?

  8. If we push all Muslims under the extremist umbrella, the extremists will welcome them and confirm to them that they have not recourse but to turn to the extremists for guidance.

    We do the terrorists’ recruiting for them if we do this.

    More and more, moderate Muslims and moderate Muslim organizations are taking back their faith, an inch at a time, and we need to partner with them to marginalize the extremists. Islam is not the problem. Extremism, fanatacism, and terrorism are.

    Our nation is most certainly compatible with any religion, including Islam, thanks to some brilliant lawmaking that keeps our government free of religious influence (see the 1st Amendment). Religious freedom here is for everyone, not just for those like us.

    Putting a mosque at this site could be turned into a tool to further marginalize extremists. Especially if a moderate Sufi who praises America as a nation were the imam there.

    The mistake that many make is to believe that Islam is going to somehow go away if we hate it enough. Islam isn’t going anywhere. The best thing to do is to enable moderate Islam, to help manage the shape that Islam is going to take going into the future.

    Labeling all Muslims as the problem, labeling Islam as the problem, is simply taking your hands off the wheel at 90 mph.

  9. might respond to Hammer when the laughter subsides…

  10. This is not appropriate location, as a N.Y.er the ONLY spot that would work for me..is if they TEAR-DOWN the U.N. and put it there with a big fat WALL around it…….and a sign that reads “BEWARE! you are entering into a P.C. zone! your Govt. will not protect you if you go beyond this point!”

  11. I propose/demand that Christians purchase land in muslim countries and build Cathedrals for our worship…How about we start in Mecca…

  12. [...] Posted on May 7, 2010 by creeping Updates on previous posts (must reads – here and here) on the America-blaming imam who is operating a mosque afoul of city regulations with grand plans [...]

  13. Building a mosque right by ground zero is disgusting!! No, there proably wouldn’t be a problem if it were a church being built there. Why?? Umm….we live in the USA, our country was founded on Christian (NOT Muslim) values. It’s in our pledge and on our currancy (until some far left idiots take that away too). Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave the United States…bye-bye, we won’t miss u!!

  14. This article is full of factual errors and hateful assumptions.
    Cordoba is NOT some kind of muslim pride dominance buzzword – it is the name of a city which was well known for its cultural and religious diversity and tolerance.

    • Yeah you are right Joe – Cordoba is the code word to fool the infidels…the real Islamic dominance buzzword for Spain is Al Andalus – dhimmi

  15. Islam is here in the US to dominate and the Koran will be one day the highest moral law of the land. Excuse my words, but we have brought the land and will build our Mosque on top of the bones of the infidel if we have to. You Americans are doing that in our muslim countries right now. Allah O Akbar !!!!!!!!!!! Allah O Akbar!!!!!!!!

  16. You may know a few “moderate Muslims” but there is no such thing as Moderate Islam. Islam intends to dominate every culture it invades. You will only submit to Islam. It cannot simply co-exist.

    http://ow.ly/1NYlx

  17. Americans are funding this disgusting invasion with petro dollars paid to Saudi Arabia.

    The building of this mosque at Ground Zero is a travesty and an abomination.

    America you are emulating the self hating liberal jews who are undermining Israel and you will be continuing to sign your own death warrant.

    If you want to know what will happen to you in the long run just google Brigitte Gabriel and listen to her tell you about the ruination of Lebanon by hizbollah.

    The precedent is there.

  18. I respect and honor all religions, I am at best, the type that keeps to himself, works, pays taxes and loves my family and extended family “Soldiers”. Above all, I am a Catholic. I am greatly concerned for the well being of my fellow Americans. Right now there are too many individuals hiding behind computers and instant gratification of technology, get out there and DO! If a Muslim wants to practice his or her religion, by all means DO it! Just DO NOT TRY in any way shape or fom change my Religion and everything will be fine. Building a place of Worship near Ground Zero is fine as long as All Religions can utilize it as a place of Worship, not owned by one dominant Religion over another. Forgive those that trespass us, but do not forget! Lets keep the playing field even!

  19. how paranoid get a life people!!!!

    Islam rules the world already get over it start studying Islam to get along with the new world order.

    You can write what you like but facts are facts just simple research proves the following points:

    1) Every country in the world wants Shariah Compliant Islamic Financial Products [Do a search and see for yourself]

    2) The organization United Muslim Nations International is the new UN [Do research and see for yourself]

    3) The organization already established the Islamic Khalifah System to take over the world see the Bait-ul-Maal structure in full function.

    4) The organization has an International Ulama Board see: UMN Intl Ulama Board [do research].

    5) Islamophobic Terrorist Groups claim that Islam is an Anti-Christ Movement the UMN Intl has responded to this accusation see: [UMN Intl: Is Islam an Anti-Christ Movement] do research and see the answers for yourself.

    Allahu Akbar! The only threat now to Americans is Islamophobia

    • about as paranoid as requiring murdering those who choose to leave Islam… if it weren’t for the apostate death penalty there wouldn’t be half as many muslims as there are today… even you know that kid

  20. Would Little Pigs B-B-Que please open a franchise near this
    new tourist trap? Free chitlins to the first 1000 stinking tourists,
    as Harry Reid says……

  21. Hammer, did you hit your head with a hammer before! Your a genius! LOL

  22. These days the answer to every vacant building or patch of land seems to be a mosque.

  23. [...] Hamas? Does he support jihad and sharia law? What true Muslim doesn’t? Where did he get $4.8M in cash and where will he get $100M [...]

  24. alfarook: We will never surrender. Never. Get over it. Islam’s time was the 7th Century (or at best, the 8th, when the Frenchman Charles Martel sent the Muslim army running from France, never to return.) You are stuck in it, and welcome to it. Keep in mind that our warriors are your best friends, and your worst enemy.

    Joe: “Cordoba is NOT some kind of muslim pride dominance buzzword – it is the name of a city which was well known for its cultural and religious diversity and tolerance.”

    You should get out more:

    “… Cordoba Initiative, an inter-religious blueprint for improving relations between the Muslim world and West & America.”

    Obviously, it was named after the city. Unfortunately, Islam’s tolerance for diversity ended soon after the Cordoba era. New caliph, new knives.

    Let’s hear more about Mr Raif:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/05/911-mosque-imam-feisal-abdul-rauf-blames-christians-the-us-and-the-west-must-acknowledge-the-harm-th.html

    “In a move likely to cause controversy with church leaders, Imam Feisal said it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.”

    It appears that instances of “honor killings” by Christian parents have been sadly underreported, along with news of Christians beating their women for not wearing the right clothes.

    Another of the thousand differences: our women can pray in our churches right along with us – and even become preachers and leaders in those churches.

    Let us know when the first woman imam is appointed.

  25. It is in the name of religion, all religions, that humans murder each other and destroy. Keep your religion in your own backyard and get it out of my face. So called “Ground Zero” is no place for any religious symbol to be; And most certainly not a Mosque which represents the religion of the vicious humans who chose to do what they did to the World Trade Center.

  26. We will pray to our Christian God for the poor deluded soul of Mr alarooq1.

    “Islam rules the world already get over it….”
    Nice try. Do your own research and see how many Christians, Buddhists and Hindus there are in the world.

    Loukas: “I propose/demand that Christians purchase land in muslim countries and build Cathedrals for our worship.”

    Just how far do you think anyone would get? They’d be run out of town in a scimitar. Islam only works one way – their way or the coffin.

    Hammer: “The mistake that many make is to believe that Islam is going to somehow go away if we hate it enough. Islam isn’t going anywhere.”
    We don’t want or need it “go away” (unlike Islam, whose goal is to eradicate Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism &c – just like they eradicated Zoroastrianism from Persia).

    What we need is for it to go back under its rock in the Middle East and stay there, where it can continue to live in the 7th Century.

  27. If you object to the Cordoba Mosque at Ground Zero, check out http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/killcordoba/ Any elected US official who supports this project should be investigated with respect to who and what is funding their next campaign. It’s called BLOOD MONEY, and I hope every single one of them being paid to support this will envision the blood of these victims on their hands for the rest of their lives. This project is a moral abomination, and so is anyone who forgets the images on that beautiful sunny Tuesday morning of those people jumping to their deaths because of –correctly interpreted or not — Muslim ideology.

  28. “IMAM” BLOOMBERG’S SHARIA MOSQUE !

    Mayor “Napoleon” Bloomberg and his backstabbing cronies must have a $tupendou$ rea$on which they can’t reveal for wanting a sharia-hugging mosque near Ground Zero!
    But the sharia “cobra” they’re toying with can quickly grow its fangs and then say “Smile, you’re on Candid Scimitar and will soon be buried in a scimitary, ha ha ha!” – proving that one good backstabbing deserves another!
    God-haters and America-haters may not realize how high the collective temperature has now risen in the hearts of true American patriots – many of whom are now willing to die for America right here in America if they get pushed completely over the line!
    Since the nation’s headquarters for treason is the White House, readers can enjoy related material if they Google “Obama Avoids Bible Verses” & “Obama Supports Public Depravity” and also Google “Sandra Bernhard, Larry David, Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Sarah Silverman” in addition to Googling “Obama…destined to become a black-slavery avenger.”
    And by all means visit Googleland and type in “Government-Approved Illegals” and “Un-Americans Fight Franklin Graham.”
    I hope Mayor Bloomberg, dressed as Napoleon, will thoroughly enjoy his mosquerade party!
    PS – Since Jane Fonda still loves leftist causes, here’s a one-liner I penned during the Vietnam War era that the big Kansas City paper ran: “I’m not Fonda Jane; her Laosy remarks Hanoi me!”
    PPS – Interestingly, many conservative evangelicals have lately given up belief in a “pretribulation rapture” (the 180-year-old, fringe-British-invented, escapist-and-thus-subversive theological aberration behind the rapture bestsellers by Lindsey, LaHaye etc.) and now believe they will be on earth, standing against evil, during at least a portion of Antichrist’s diabolical reign. Widely read Google articles like “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” have helped to bring about this “pretrib” mutiny.

    A Kansas Patriot

    (Saw above bit on net. Why do Muslims build on enemy sites? For the reason a dog leaks on top of another dog’s leak – to show dominance! See how influential dogs are?)

  29. I would like to express my impression that one of the most thoughtful, levelheaded comments I have read in these responses was left by “Hammer”: I would recommend seeking it out. I was disappointed to see that “creeping” (who is perhaps the person who runs this blog?) undermined the possibility for thoughtful dialog with the comment “will respond to Hammer once the laughter subsides.” If your stated enemy is islamic “extremism” then you would do well to pay more heed to the voices of moderation rather than simply mirroring that extremism on the other side of the fence.

  30. I saw a tape with Brian Gilmeade on FOX.

    I knew I had seen the Ground Zero Imam before.
    He was on the Barbara Walter’s Special several years ago which was called:

    Heaven: Is It Real?

    The Imam behind the Ground Zero Mosque represented Islam on the Barbara Walter’s special
    ‘Heaven. Is it Real?

    The Imam, Faisal Abdul Rauf, tells Barbara Walters on her ABC special about Muslim’s in Heaven:
    “We will be in comfortable homes, reclining on silk couches. We will have people coming – servants, lovely servants, young youths to regale you, Barbara. Residing in gardens beyond which rivers flow.”

    So says Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, who quarrels only with the widespread misconception that Islami martyrs get 72 virgins. Seventy-two, he says, is just an Arabic expression for “countless.”

    Yes – to cut to the chase – there will be virgins, too. Even for women. (Barbara’s “youths.”) And why not?
    Does Imam Rauf mean countless youths for sexual pleasure? If not for sexual pleasure, why would their virginity be important?

    Does Imam Rauf condone martyr’s who murder innocents? It seems so?

    We are told that this religion should be part of Western society and treated with respect and should be allowed to build a mosque as a ‘TROPHY’ to the 1000’s of murdered American’s on 9/11?

    Islam teaches, historically, that its self-proclaimed founding prophet Mohammed not only murdered/beheaded 700 Jewish men in a 12 hour period after one battle, but that Mohammed also gave their women and children to his men and he sold the rest. He also married a 6 year old baby girl named Ayesha (some say 9 years old) when he was 53 to 56 years old.

    Was Mohammed a pedophile?
    A mass murderer?
    A slave trader?
    Our leaders, both religious and political, tell us this man was a supposed ‘Prophet of GOD’ and American’s need to respect him and his religion as one of the ‘World’s Great Religion’s?

    Why are people who do not want to accept Islam’s prophet and his violent teaching’s and belief’s called RACIST in the 21st century?

    Why are these historical ‘FACTS’, which are taught by Islam never mentioned along with this Imam and his Islamic religious beliefs?

    I thought all of you might want to know about Imam Rauf and the true side to his Islamic beliefs and teachings as HE and his religion teaches.

    Islam teaches these personality disorders of its prophet as HISTORICALLY accurate. Would YOU follow a man who did the thing’s Mohammed did
    as a messanger of GOD today?

    Think about it? Wake up America!!!!!

  31. For a religious group to haver 4.5 million in “cash” is pretty normal. You could name 100 congragations in NYC with that cash on hand, precisely for building projects. It is not as if he had it it suitcased. Stop being a nutjob and realize that moderate, patriotic American Muslims can build a house of worship wherever they want. There has been a mosque not 8–0 feet from this siote for 25 + years. 20 nuts and Bin Laden hid behind religion and attacked America. We are neither at war with the 2 million American Muslims nor the 2.57 billion in the world. Stop being a bigot.

  32. There is only one word to describe what they are letting Muslims do to New York, to Ground Zero, to America – DISGUSTING.

  33. if we dont let them build it, then how can we be the land of the free? Would it not be hypocrisy to prevent someone from buying property and building in the USA? If they are not preaching terrorism, whats the problem? more likely it will encourage moderation.
    the islamaphobia in these comments are pathetic. Win through education not blind and stupid hate, you cant fight extremism with extremism.

    I am putting one thing straight. America is not a “christian” country, just as it is not “scientological”, “mormon” etc. The values that the founding fathers put down were meant to be universal. They were Diests and did not belong to congregations. Yes ‘in god we trust’ but not a god of a particular religion. The one creator, whatever name or form you give it, if you choose to. The mosque can be built, and honestly I dont give a rats ass cos its got nothing to do with me. But this land does not belong to ANY religion but to UNALIENABLE RIGHTS.

    As George Washington once said, every man “ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.”
    sweeejesus please cut the crap and get on with your lives

  34. People have no idea what they take for granted. We are Americans, are born here, raised here, and live here. Because of our U.S. Constitution, we have the ability TO CHOOSE our life, OUR RELIGION, assemble, and are able to voice our opinions. We live TOGETHER in this country, come from all parts of the entire globe, pursue freedom of all kinds, and yet, still today, Americans have NO CONCEPT of “no compulsion in religion.” Many still carry the ethnic or cultural baggage and prejudices produced by their childhoods. It is improper to force religion (no matter what your personal faith is) on any other person. Everyone in America has a right to choose their own personal lifestyle as long as it adheres to the laws and rules that keep society from creating chaos/harm to itself. Religion was the first kind of regulation to guide the people, without it and without laws, people go ballistic and do stupid things. Even with laws, people can do stupid things, however, there are consequences. In religion, there are consequences. Know the difference between sheer stupidity, and the reality of truth of any of the worlds religion. Religion is supposed to clear the path for people and make life easier by avoiding pitfalls along the way. The purpose of religion is not to make life intolerable. Get with the program people…WE ARE AMERICANS, SO ACT APPROPRIATELY BY PROTECTING OUR U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS. ANY OTHER ACT TO HARM OTHERS ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION IS TREASON.

  35. Paranoid and hatred is the order of the day. By eliminating logic and allowing hatred and paranoid to take over then in our minds we are absolutely correct. Even though 90% of us Christians haven’t uttered a word of prayer for years, or maybe a decade we know exactly what it likes to be a devoted Christian. Please stop preaching Christianity on the internet and take it to the churches or Cathedral where it belongs. By the way, when is it that Catholic became a religion of idiots spewing hatred? If radical Muslim preach hatred, allow them to do so, why should we as worshiping Christians follow suit by preaching and spewing hatred?

  36. So what people are telling us is that there are (at least) two versions of Islam – and I’m not talking about Sunni vs Shi’a – one that’s peaceful, and one that’s fundamentalist, suicide-bomber, stones heretics and apostates, woman-oppressing, …

    This will come as news to a lot of imams.

    There is one Koran, one Islam, to which all mankind is expected to submit. You may claim that submission is to Allah, but if that were true, Muslims would not be encouraged to kill apostates, and to enslave those who will not convert.

  37. Mr Paranoid: “…Even though 90% of us Christians haven’t uttered a word of prayer for years,…”

    Speak for yourself, not for us.

    Mr “Land of the free”: “… the islamaphobia in these comments …”

    There is no “phobia” involved. If you were familiar with the origins of English, you’d realize that “phobia” means “fear”.

    “They were Diests and did not belong to congregations. ”
    Some were Deists,. like Jefferson. If you were familiar with the history of the country, and of the Founders, you’d find that almost all of them were members of organized religion. Protestant, Catholic, Unitarian,….. Some few, like Franklin, had doubts, but he was no atheist.

  38. The ACLJ is representing one of the fireman responding to the 9-11 attack.

    View video . . .

  39. America was not founded on a religious belief, but a belief that all men(women) are created equally. That being said America is a land for all religions and if you think America is a Christian country than you obviously need to go back to school and study. Did you know that Thomas Jefferson’s family originated from Lebanon and his ancestors were Muslim’s?Also he was the first president to have the quaran in the white house…you people are brain washed just like (Middle Eastern)terrorists are, what about American terrorists?DO they not exist, or is it because they are American they cannot be labeled a terrorist because its only Muslims that are?…It makes me sick that because i am not Christian I am not a real American…screw u all i was born raised here so was my mother and we are American Muslims…we are AMERICAN! and i am proud of that…and no1 can ever take that away from me…Jewish Christian Muslim Buddha Hindu whatever….if your born here you are as much of an American as anyone else!Build the mosque built it anywhere…its a place of god and worship…and you cannot stop a person from building a house of god because some asshole in a cave, or our government(most likely) decided to knock down OUR towers in OUR city that ruined OUR way of life…if u ask me…i would say build a mosque a church and synagogue side by side and allow that to be the new international place of worship…so if u really have anything bad to say about it you are obviously not educated nor are you worthy of typing a legitimate argument.Good Day

  40. This thread really brings out the ignorant. “Thomas Jefferson’s family originated from Lebanon and his ancestors were Muslim’s?” The problem here is that we can actually read, we don’t just take anyone’s word for anything. Yes, he had the first Koran – but you apparently don’t know why. We do:

    http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm

    “At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic “Barbary” states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.”

    The rest is up to you. Do a search for “Barbary Pirates”.

    And it’s up to you to submit proof that his ancestors “came from Lebanon”. We know where his ancestors really came from.

    “… i would say build a mosque a church and synagogue side by side and allow that to be the new international place of worship …”

    Very good idea. Let’s do it – in Saudi Arabia.

    Good grief.

  41. Stop this NOW. Do we really want the people that destroyed the Twin Towers and our feeling of security to build this apparition on the same site?? I think not.

  42. Maybe some airplane can find it’s way to crash into this building in a few years. Hope it will be full at the time.

  43. Danish cartoons? Check out 2000-year old Buddha statues bombed up in Afganistan. Religion of peace?

    Muslim prayer space = place to hold political speeches

    Western law to be replaced by sharia? 99% of the World doesn’t want any MALES telling them what to think and what to do. No thanks to sharia. Please: freedom.

    Listen to Wafa Sultan: islam = prison: as soon as you get out, you see the LIGHT

    In Hamburg this week they closed down Mosque that was holding jihad talks.

  44. German Authorities close Mosque which Promoted Holy War against the West

    Christoph Ahlhaus, Hamburg’s secretary of the interior, announced Monday: “Today we closed the Taiba mosque because young men were being turned into religious fanatics there. Behind the scenes, a supposed cultural organization shamelessly used the freedoms of our democratic rule of law to promote holy war. Hamburg cannot become a cradle for Islamists capable of violence.”

    As long ago as January 1999, the Naqshbandi Sufi leader Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani declared in a State Department Open Forum that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America.

    Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky confirmed in 2005, that 80% of the mosques in the USA “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.”

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/08/10/closed-for-business/

    The New York Police Department has issued a report warning that Wahhabi (Saudi Arabian financed) mosques serve as incubators for “homegrown” Islamic radicals.

    http://www.nypdshield.org/public/Sit…n_the_West.pdf

    It is thought highly probable by analysts that the Mosque at ground zero is being financed by a Wahhabi Saudi Arabian source, although the Muslim group responsible refuses to reveal the source of funding of its $100-plus million super mosque.

    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has declared that those critical of the construction of an Islamic super mosque within two blocks of the site where 3,000 people were murdered by Saudi Arabian Islamic radicals “ought to be ashamed of themselves” for being intolerant.

    Moreover, he categorically rejected the idea that it was reasonable, let alone necessary, to determine the source of funds for the $100-plus million mega-mosque near Ground Zero.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/Frank…s_with_shariah

  45. ISLAM IS NOT A LEGITIMATE RELIGION – IT IS A MURDEROUS CULT WHOSE TENANTS COMMAND DEATH TO THOSE WHO DON’T SUBMIT TO IT. IT NEEDS TO BE DECLARED AS SUCH IN THE US & SHOULD BE BANNED

  46. There can only be peace when the promise of Allah through his Messenger/Prophet is fulfilled. Why is it that a single Mosque is creating a diaspora? Enough is enough for no one is acknowledging/addressing the displacement of innocent Muslims from their rightful homes, pressure is always on Anti-Christ not on Anti-Islam.
    If i were to meet President Barrack Obama, i will personally thank him for his threat of the world over. He is a man of peace and ideas, the greatest Politician in American History.
    Please the Muslims of the world should continue with the peaceful teachings of the Sun nah of our Beloved Prophet and let time command our faith Naturally.

  47. Yunusa: “There can only be peace when the promise of Allah through his Messenger/Prophet is fulfilled. ”

    Truly, there will indeed be peace when all the kuffar have been killed or forced to convert.

    “Why is it that a single Mosque is creating a diaspora?”

    (I don’t know what you mean by “diaspora”, and I know what the word means.)

    Because there are already over 30 mosques in that part of the city. We all know that it is the Islamic custom to build mosques over the sites they have conquered – starting with the mosque in Jerusalem on the site of King David’s temple. They consider the mass murder and destruction in NYC to be some sort of “victory”. They will find out, to their regret, that we are not conquered so easily.

    This is not just about “a single mosque”. The Governor of New York has asked them to build it somewhere else – they refuse. They have to build it at Ground Zero to show that they’ve conquered us.

    “… the greatest Politician in American History.”
    That can only be said by someone who has no concept, no understanding whatever, of American history. And in your case, I suspect, of any history whatever.

    Now it is developing that imam Faisal Rauf won’t tell anyone where the rest of the funding is coming from. Why the secrecy? (Congrats to Scott for mentioning that.)

    If I had any influence in New York, I would encourage the building inspectors to take a very, very long time and make sure that every nut and bolt, every coat of paint, was 110% up to specifications.

    And don’t forget making sure there are plenty of handicapped parking spaces in the lot and access paths into and throughout the building.

  48. Why does Fox News allow muslims from Saudi Arabia to own stock in their company? In fact, Saudi princes are the second biggest shareholder. Seems hypocritical to be preaching against a mosque in New York when they’re accepting tons of money from the very country of origin of the 911 terrorists.

    • Fox is a notorious supporter of Saudi-funded CAIR as well, giving them free airtime on a regular basis, almost always unchallenged and not identifying the group’s links to jihad and support of sharia law.

      Are you sure you even saw/heard someone at Fox actually opposing the mosque or just reporting on the issue?

      By the way, we started covering this issue and asking questions in December 2009. Where was the media then?

    • When will a politian stand up and just say NO !!! Out of respect for our country’s pain and suffering. Yes they have a right to build, but not at ground zero.. Why can’t they relocate it ? Also they should account for all moneys used and the institutions that will finance it. I’m sure when our fore fathers wrote the constitution they did not consider the murder of 3000 americans or weapons of mass destruction. There was nothing in 1776 that could cause a 9/11 tragedy except a natural disaster. Times have changed and maybe the american people should vote to update our constitution. The only group that is hearing the concerns of the majority of americans is the Construction Workers labor union, Thank You !! If they don’t do the work it won’t be built !!! Everyday radicals are plotting to kill inocent americans and harm are country. Lets not make it easy for them to take out our financial life blood and cripple our economy, our country cannot handle going into crissis back to back.

  49. [...] Rauf proposed a mosque At Ground Zero’s coat factory John Liu offered special financing To make it all [...]

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