Florida judge issues opinion, confirms Islamic sharia law in U.S. courts

An update on the Florida judge who is forcing Muslims to abide by sharia law, via Judge issues opinion in Islamic law case – St. Petersburg Times.

TAMPA — A Hillsborough judge under withering attack from conservatives for saying he will use Islamic law to decide if an arbitration award was correct apparently wants to explain himself.

Circuit Judge Richard Nielsen took the unusual step of issuing an opinion Tuesday even though the 2nd District Court of Appeal has stayed proceedings in a lawsuit against the Islamic Education Center of Tampa filed by four ousted trustees.

The opinion does not add anything that isn’t already in the court file nor does it make any finding of law. But Nielsen appears to take great pains to explain the reasoning behind his controversial decision.

The issue involves whether an arbitration award in the case by an Islamic scholar, called an a’lim, was proper. The a’lim ruled Dec. 28 that the mosque’s ex-trustees were ousted improperly, a decision that, if it sticks, might wrest control of $2.2 million from the center’s current leaders.

The mosque got the money from the state after it used some of the mosque’s land for a road project.

The judge noted in his opinion that he must hear further testimony to determine whether “Islamic dispute resolution procedures have been followed in this matter.”

So a Florida judge is going to determine if sharia was properly followed in the matter? Is he qualified to determine if sharia has been followed? Is he using the Koran as his reference?

Nielsen’s assistant said Tuesday the judge would not comment on pending litigation.

The judge’s March 3 ruling saying he would use Islamic law, known as sharia, to decide the arbitration issue was quickly appealed by the mosque’s attorney to the 2nd DCA. The mosque argues that state law should decide the issue and to inject religion into the case violates the U.S. Constitution.

The mosque trustees, i.e., Muslims do not want to be subject to Islamic sharia law. Will CAIR, the left/media cry Islamophobia, xenophobia, racism?

The mosque’s attorney, Paul Thanasides, also wants to take deposition testimony from the a’lim, who lives in Texas.

In an irony probably not lost on some of the litigants, the a’lim’s attorney has filed a motion with a Texas judge to prevent Thanasides from deposing the a’lim.

What does the attorney think bars testimony by an arbitrator?

Texas law.

Well, Texas has an Islamic sharia court but even the sharia judge arbitrator doesn’t want to be held to his own sharia rulings and wants the full rights of the state.

Recall from the original post,

“The mosque believes wholeheartedly in the Koran and its teachings,” Thanasides said Monday. “They certainly follow Islamic law in connection with their spiritual endeavors. But with respect to secular endeavors, they believe Florida law should apply in Florida courts.”

So what exactly is a secular endeavor? They still believe “wholeheartedly in the Koran and its teachings.” That doesn’t bode well for infidels in Tampa, and they aren’t commenting so it’s not clear how much secular law they endorse. Will they become spokesmen for banning sharia law in Florida? Elsewhere? Would they be branded apostates for doing so and be targeted for their secular preference?

The four ex-trustees suing the center did not return calls for comment. And attorneys representing them declined comment.

More than a year ago we posted on a report by Muslims on judges in the U.S. creating a body of case law based on Islamic sharia law. The post didn’t garner much attention, but suffice it to say, the issue is much bigger than what the media is telling you.

20 Responses

  1. Yes, just like Cannibals have the right to eat other people because of their religious beliefs! Wait, there was a recent fatwah that said it was lawful for muslims to eat non-muslims.

  2. This is so against the laws of our nation!! Make it viral because the Liberal Lame Stream Media wont!

  3. Everybody’s Twisting – they all do the worm – wriggle, wriggle!! let’s see some more tortuous “logic”.

    Can’t make this up!!

    • sometimes when you twist a legal agreement to much the fabric of which it is made tends to tear.The behind -the-scenes agreement to meld iron and clay will dissinegrate into slag…………they will all fail in the end.Consider the insignificant persons to be those who are finite in thier existence.Those who are NOT insignificant are those who do not practice to deceive.

  4. Time to impeach judges that do not uphold Constitutional laws. I refer to Article VI of the Constitution..supremacy law which affects the state laws as well.

  5. Mike Gallagher of 710 WOR AM radio gave a hat tip to this site when discussing sharia in American Courts. Way to go CS!!

  6. This judge needs to be brought before the bar, disbarred, jailed and then executed on live TV.

    I would love to be on that firing squad,.

  7. These typr cases are justification for keith ellison’s push to make his alma mater law school shari’a compliant. Just kidding. He would NEVER do that, would he?

  8. Remove from office;U.S. LAW AND FLORIDA LAW cannot be entertwined with any religion……….the same laws apply to all or it is not america;this PRECEDENT is a planned maneuver to set up ANTONOMOUS STATES WITH THE U.S.A WHICH WILL THEN BE FOLLOWED BY MORE INVASIONS OF ISLAMIC THOUGHT AND PROCEDURE VIA THE FOOLS AND TRAITORS IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROFILED AS SUBVERSIVES WITH THE POTENTIAL OF INSURRECTION.AND TERRORISM.THE HOUR IS LATE……..OH.I HAVE A STOP WATCH………I GUESS I WILL USE IT.ONLY FOR A TIME THOUGH……..LET THE IMANS BE WARNED ONE MORE TIME;LET THE GOVERNMENTS BE WARNED ONE MORE TIME.ONLY ONE……DO THEY HAVE LIFE JACKETS?

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  11. Idiots!! You want them to do to this judge the same thing that ignorant, idiot “Christians” believe all Muslims do. All Black people don’t play basketball and all Asians don’t eat dogs. I wish I could declare a Fatwa on you opinion posting morons. You make me ashamed to call myself an American and a Christian

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  13. All of you reading this should find out what is being taught in your public schools (new mandated curriculum)–here is what is happening in the suburbs of Boston. We have no problems learning about different religions, this is a good thing–but you have to be factual.
    Last month my granddaughter (13) was studying Islam in her history class. It was the first lesson plan of the year and would have fallen on September 11th if the teacher had not had the sense to skip a day. Part of the chapter included Muslim contributions to history. The emphasis was that it is a “religion of peace”. There was no mention of Sharia law or of the treatment of women or apostasy (those that leave the faith). As a family we explained to her what the “real facts” were and helped her write her assigned essay “Why study Islam?” It included a very truthful and informative view. She was given an F.
    Stay Vigilant

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