If a Muslim [blanked], would the media mention it?

If a Muslim shot and killed three people in a broad daylight shooting spree in California, would the media mention it?

February 19, 2013 |Ali Syed identified as shooter in Orange County, California shooting spree that killed three (link scrubbed, new link added) – Ali Syed’s Southern California shooting spree: 3 victims identified

If a Muslim doctor lured a 9-month pregnant woman through a Craigslist ad in Ohio then drugged, raped, killer her and her unborn child then abused her corpse, would the media mention it?

February 22, 2013 | Dr. Ali Salim Raped, Killed Pregnant Woman, Sought More Victims

If a Muslim was the primary suspect in a shooting on the Las Vegas strip that killed three people, would the media mention it? And would the media stop using the his full Muslim name after blogs pointed out his apparent conversion to Islam?

February 23, 2013 | Las Vegas shooting suspect named: Ammar Asim Faruq Harris

If a Muslim – a prominent imam no less, told Muslims at a Virginia high school they must be first in line for armed jihad, would the media mention it?

February 22, 2013 | Virginia imam tells Muslims to wake up, promotes armed jihad (video)

If a Muslim shot, decapitated, cut the hands off of and burned two Christian men in New Jersey, would the media mention it?

February 13, 2013 | Gruesome double murder, men decapitated

Reporting must be better outside the U.S., right?

If a mob of Muslim kids bullied a nine-year-old boy in Britain so mercilessly that he hung himself, would the media mention it?

February 24, 2013 | Aaron, 9, ‘bullied to death for being white’ Family blames Asian yobs for suicide

If Muslims killed 16 people and injured more than 100 car bombing a cinema and a bus terminal in India, would the media mention it?

February 23, 2013 | India: Terrorist attack kills 16 in Hyderabad

If Muslims torched and looted more than 200 Hindu homes in West Bengal, would the media even report it?

February 21, 2013 | a near-complete media blackout and distressing silence from statutory bodies like the National Human Rights Commission

These are just a few of the incidents from the last week.

And finally, if Barrack Hussein Obama ordered the U.S. State Department to issue a “worldwide caution” to all U.S. citizens about potential terror threats, would that document include the words jihad, Muslim or Islam?

February 21, 2013 | Obama’s State Dept Issues 2000-plus word Terror Alert, refuse to use words Islam, Jihad or Muslim

Update: Daniel Pipes wrote in a similar vein a few days ago via Jihad or Criminality?

Comments: Because the media, law enforcement, and elected officials are so reluctant to give out information about the attackers’ religion, much less their motives, it’s basically impossible to tell from the outside if they represent a wave of jihadi attacks by Islamists or are just a bunch of criminals who happen to be Muslim, or a bit of both. (For documentation of this pattern, see both my article “http://www.danielpipes.org/2396/denying-islamist-terrorismwww.danielpipes.org/2396/denying-islamist-terrorism” and the follow-up blog, “More Incidents of Denying Islamist Terrorism.”) The most the media will concede is in the Ibrahim case, that “Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims’ [Christian] religion.” When will journalists, police, and politicians end their efforts to hide key information that the public needs and deserves? (February 24, 2013)

Feb. 25, 2013 update: This blog prompted readers to send other recent cases of Muslim-on-non-Muslim violence:

Sep. 8, 2011: As Justin Hall, 32, of Mount Vernon, Ohio, was about to board a Greyhound bus in Springfield, Mo., Mohamed H. Dawod, 25, of Glendale, Ariz., shot him in the back. Dawod tried to fire more shots but his pistol, a .22-cal. semi-automatic, jammed, at which point other passengers subdued him. The attack appeared to be unprovoked. Police are seeking a motive. They charged Dawod with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the shooting.

It leaves one wondering how many other cases are out there that are never reported anywhere.

Update: Several days after this post, a similar post appeared at IBD.com on March 1, Jihad? What Jihad? Media Shrug At Islamic Threat

35 Responses

  1. Noooooooo. Maybe Aljazeera will. Please wear T-shirts with creeping sharia and jihad watch webs sights on them. Red Dawn/or High Noon?

  2. I am going to reblog this on the THOMA$ REPORT on Town Hall, and The Bull Cutter on Blogger.

  3. Here in So. Calif. THIS WAS COVERED BY THE MEDIA… and is STILL being discussed by the Media!

    I do NOT appreciate that THIS News Source is implying that this was NOT covered by the Media! You can post the TRUTH or NOTHING AT ALL!

    STOP bending the facts into YOUR agenda!

    • Joe…

      I might be missing the point here, but what I get out of CS’s post is this:

      Yes, the media might report the incident, possibly/maybe all over the country, BUT….
      they never report it as a crime committed by a MUSLIM…and my point is that these crimes are initiated or motivated by a direct connection to islam and it’s message.
      I am in Canada, and we heard about the incident in Las Vegas, but not 1 word about the shooters connection with islam.
      Maybe the Las Vegas shooting had NOTHING to do with islam, but many of those crimes CS mentioned DID…and if they did, THEY should be reported with that as part of the byline.

      • Amboyduke, these cases are, as you say, sometimes mentioned in the MSM but the all important word “muslim” is so very often omitted. One of the worst of these cases occurs every year here in Canada, where as you know people hold a memorial for the victims of one Marc Lepine.

        I would guess at least 95% of Canadians if asked would say Lepine was a French Canadian, and he was not. His real name was Gamil Gharbi, and he was a woman-hating muslim, just like his father who was from Algeria. Lepine was his mother’s maiden name.

        The most scurrilous, misleading interview I have ever heard was one conducted by CBC with Lepine’s mother, where the words ‘muslim’ and ‘islam’ were not even mentioned once, in the half hour interview; nor was the fact Lepine had changed his name.

        • Hello Peter…

          Yes, the Marc Lepine issue is one of which I am aware.

          It is quite possible that his hatred for women had something to do with his muslim father…but at least when he did his crime the muslim issue wasn’t nearly as large and important as it is today!

          It makes me sick that the media never refers to muslims when they cover an islamic releted story…sound like a conspiracy of some sort, I’d say…???
          Just what the hell is going on is somewhat disconcerting.
          There soes seem to be an agenda promoting the islamic rise in the world…although I am not specifically religious or “Christian”, dare I say the rise of islam might have something to do with biblical prophecy???
          Curiouser and curiouser…it

  4. Joe, I HAD NO IDEA the CA killings were perpetrated by a Muslim, who may be influenced to commit violence by Islamic radicalism. Any mention of that whatsoever was absent from CNN, MSN, from the Reuters and AP, and the other news coverage I read. That’s a big problem.

    • The question was NOT a qualified Muslim’s crimes for whatever reason committed was not being reported!

      The question was “If a Muslim ……….. , would the Media mention it?”
      … implying that they probably would NOT cover it!

      IT WAS COVERED BY THE MEDIA HERE IN SO. CALIF.!!
      … very nicely! … and STILL IS being covered!

  5. No kidding, maybe we need to have Al-Jazeera in the US just to have one media outlet who will use the words “Islam” and “Muslim” when covering violence perpetrated by someone who is a Muslim who appears to be radicalized, and where that angle is under investigation by law enforcement. That’s A PROBLEM.

  6. We can’t be so PC that we engage in idiotic self-censorship.

  7. What if a video game addict precision shoots at 4 cars, wounding 2 and killing a 9 yr old boy but is not muslim and does not shout allah akbar, and has no obvious motive? Would anybody even suspect a shia nation state could have recruited a shooter that would be blamed on random gun violence or mental problems? Would anyone notice that Scott Creighton who is obviously aligned with Iran and Al Queda would theorize that it was a terrorist false flag attack to cover up a Vevak intelligence operation? http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/nhan-lap-tran-and-gun-safety-bills-in-minnesota-coincidence/
    What if an ex-marine shoots another ex-marine like Chris Kyle, just like Nidal Hasan shot other soldiers, the most hated sniper by jihadists, but nobody suspects it was an assasination except this guy?
    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/chris-kyle-shot-the-devil-is-dead-in-texas/
    If a man bursts into a theater like the commandos in Mumbai shooting women and children, then lays a bomb trap in his apartment, for no apparent reason just like a terrorist, would anybody even suspect it was a terrorist operation using a non-muslim?
    Would anybody link this to the Iran chain murders?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_murders_of_Iran

    • Relax, a bit Joe.

      Not a reporter, just a thinking, investigating, reasoning concerned American.

      Thanks for the link. ‘ fixing to check it out.

      I appreciate it.

  8. I think we all just need to take an nice big deep breath, breath in ……. breath out; breeeeth in, …..breeeeth out…

    Now, what we all need to realize with these faithful servants of Allah is that they, in this killing of unbelievers, are just practicing their religion.

    (I’m playing the devil’s advocate here…)

    We have freedom of religion in this nation and thus, as long as we refrain from making the practice of Islam in this nation a crime, all acts done under the order of that din we must accept as mere worship to Allah—which is what Islam defines the acts as—as brutal and bloodletting as some of these acts of worship are.

    • That’s NOT the point!

      The Point is why isn’t the Media reporting it?
      (as if they are NOT doing so… which is a LIE… was covered here!)

      • Didn’t hear about it in my state.

        • I guess the media in your area is corrupt… That’s probably TRUE…

          … BUT, not everywhere!

          • MSM is corrupt all over the US. The MSM will tell you if a perp is white, black or hispanic, the word Muslim is USUALLY no spoken, I have no clue why. In the UK they call the Muslims Asian. If I was Asian, that would piss me off. If seems the MSM doesn’t want to hurt the Muslims feelings, well then they shouldn’t use the terms white, black, hispanic or Asian. You may have heard that on a local station,but not country wide. I am sure you heard about Tyvon murder. Where the median went straight to black and white. The perp was hispantic. That is what is wrong MSM they to divide this country by race or color.

          • muse1876

            I thought the question was the Media NOT reporting the Event!
            Now, I see! They MAY report the Event BUT call anyone “Muslim”!

            I reread the News article very carefully… They called the guy “the shooter” or by his name… They NEVER used the word Muslim although, just based on his name, it was probably very obvious that he was… BUT, unless specifically asked if he was a Muslim or not, they would not really KNOW if he was or wasn’t a Muslim.

            Sorry for my misunderstanding…

          • I appreciate your appology. Thanks

      • Hey, Joe.

        If you have a link to a report or clip on these incidents in which they (reporters) are addressing the known fact that the most probable motive behind these incidents is armed jihad on the part of the believers in their war against non-believers, I welcome having those links.

        If such links are out there, beyond this site and others like it, by all means, lead the way.

        • The question was NOT a qualified Muslim’s crimes for whatever reason (including Jihad) committed was not being reported!

          The question was “If a Muslim ……….. , would the Media mention it?”
          … implying that they probably would NOT cover it!

          IT WAS COVERED BY THE MEDIA HERE IN SO. CALIF.!!
          … very nicely! … and STILL IS being covered!

          • Again, Joe, I welcome you providing us with the links that show they are covering these incidents, digging beyond the crust of the report, as good reporters ought to do.

            Again, if you have the links to support your claims above, provide them.

          • I am NOT a Reporter… sounds like you are…

            Here is a Link that clearly disputes the subject of This Creeping Sharia report:

            Ch. 7 KABC local Los Angeles:
            http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8998910

            Perhaps you could find more if you Googled it… as I said, I don’t know.

            If you are a Reporter and you don’t know where to look to find the News, it seems like you’re in the wrong business… Reporters need to have a ‘nose’ for News and have developed sources to find the News.

            Does this help?

          • to help you better understand the question “it” refers to the perpetrator being Muslim not the incident – in case you didn’t bother to click the link, it goes to an ABC report of the incident making it rather obvious these incidents were covered and rendering your point moot

  9. Thanks for that link, Joe.

    I had seen that report as well as few others on it already.

    The issue at discussion here is just what another commentator here commented on above and you responded to.

    He is absolutely correct there.

    Put another way, subsequent to mass shootings, typically, everyone (used liberally there) in the world jumps out stating, we have a gun problem, we have this issue, that issue, and on down the line.

    But does anyone in the main stream media or in the lineup of our elected officials, step forward, toss open the books on Islam, put them up on the “screen,” and with Allah’s word and the “Prophet’s Sunnah on display, state, “People, we have an Islamic problem in America.”

    No they do not.

    Thus, over and over again, we have a new line up of our dead to gather up, so much so, we are almost used to stacking our dead up like cord wood, clean up the mess, ready our selves, as much as possible, for the next hit. Wondering, just how bad will it be. Where it will come from? What name, what reason, if any, we can search through dumpsters to tack on to the hit and call it, “accounted for.”

    Far more one can add on this….

    Time forces this one here to, for now, be brief on it, but I’ll add the following.

    Just because–in these hits such as these in which “players” openly use their Muslim names, as well as many other “Biilly-Bob” hits if you will, but hits where things just flat fail to add up—the player or players in the hits do not jump up on a table, scream Allah Akbar!!! Choke us, shake us until our eyes bulge out, does not mean it is not an Islamic hit, right out of Allah’s playbook.

  10. “…media???”

    What’s that?

    oh yeah…the Propaganda Machine sponsored by governments and the very rich!

  11. [...] If a Muslim [blanked], would the media mention it? [...]

  12. Abraham Lincoln said, “To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men”. When our mainstream news will not inform you of one of the main issues of the 21st Century, due to political correctness, then it’s time not to be silent anymore.

    Muslim refugees from Somalia and other “warzones” to the tune of 500,000 being relocated to America is the issue. Forget about being labeled a racist, bigot or being politically correct, silence won’t turn back the tide.

    The time has come to speak up and take a stand folk, for America. Awareness is the issue as most families are simply far too busy, working two jobs, raising their children and do not have a clue or the time to research the issue.

    I have done that for you, if you Google “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” you will find that this is their doctrine to destroy America and West from within by stealth jihad, and lies. Guess what, the doctrine is over 20 years old, and they are making substantial progress. We are now approaching 2400 Mosques along with approximately 2.7 million Muslims here in America.

    Massive immigration and multiculturalism is literally destroying most of Europe today. There are over 700 “Islamic No Go Zones”, within France, England and Germany, where police cannot enter. Take a look around you Dearborn, Michigan, Maine, Tennessee, Minnesota, New York, California, Colorado for examples of the immigration resettlement program, and very soon coming to your State. Over 90% of them are illiterate and in need of public assistance. Have you been to Paris recently? The young and the Rich are leaving France.

    I have no problem with the “peaceful Muslims” that wants to integrate into our culture and follow our laws. The problem lies in that the militant Muslims dominate the peaceful ones and eventually wants to force Islam and Sharia law upon us all. Why should America be forced into adapting to their culture? They must adapt to our culture.

    Sad to say, they are making inroads into every facet of our lives and trying to change our culture, under the guise of the first amendment. Already, they are changing our schools, universities, cities, towns and even our own government has been infiltrated. They want Sharia law and will stop at nothing to see that it happens. School textbooks are being changed to put Islam in a more favorable light. Have you been to a school board meeting recently? Food menus are being changed to accommodate all of them.

    When Jews, Christians, Priests, Infidels are being slaughtered and murdered, and churches are being burned down did you ever wonder why the so called peaceful moderate Muslims, never speak out against these atrocities? Europe is losing the battle and America in less than a generation will be next. Where is the condemnation from the nearly 3 Million Muslims that are here, have you heard a word from them? Their silence speaks volumes on their real intent to destroy us from within and have no intention of ever living within our culture. They want Sharia law in America today folks.

    Islam is a political ideology; it is the antithesis of a free society. One generation of silence on the issue due to political correctness is all it takes. What you do today and tomorrow will affect your children and grandchildren and future generations of America, yet unborn. Stand up and be counted to defeat this real threat from within. Voice your opinion, let your congressmen, senators and school boards know how you feel on the issue.

    Forget about being labeled and simply do what is right for America. We need a permanent solution, time is running out. Let us not become the next Europe. As for me I refuse to be silent on the issue. One person can make a difference, but think if were united, what a difference we can make to turn back the tide and doctrine of the Muslim Brotherhood. Enough is enough folks, if you do just one thing today, Google “TheProjectMuslimBrotherhood” and see for yourself their intent to destroy America from within. Thank you, and please forward this to millions.

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