Pope to Canonize 800 Italian Martyrs Beheaded by Muslims for Refusing to Renounce Faith

And refusing to convert to Islam. via Pope Canonizes Otranto Christian Martyrs Slayed by Muslim Turks.

Pope Benedetto XVI announced that he will leave his ministry at 8pm on February 28.

He made this announcement during a consistory for the canonization of the martyrs of Otranto beheaded one by one by the Ottoman Turks.

Antonio Primaldo and his companions, 800 Christians, were murdered for hatred of their faith by Muslims during the Turkish siege of the town of Otranto, in South-East Italy, on August 13, 1480.

More via Antonio Primaldo, the Saint Who Stood to the End:

Blessed Antonio was a tailor in the city of Otranto, Italy, in the 1400s.  In 1480 the city was invaded by Turkish Moslems, their 150 ships and 18,000 troops greatly outnumbering the 6,000 inhabitants of the town.  The conquerors executed the elderly bishop, Archbishop Stephen Pendinelli, and took the women and children into slavery.  They rounded up all the men between the ages of fifteen and fifty—some 800 men in all.  The Ottoman captors threatened to kill all the men, but promised to grant their lives and the freedom of their women and children if the men would simply renounce Christ and become Muslim.

Blessed Antonio remained firm, and encouraged his fellow citizens to stand strong in their faith.  “My brothers,” he said, “until today we have fought in defense of our homeland, to save our lives, and for our earthly governors.  Now it is time for us to fight to save our souls for the Lord.  And since he died on the cross for us, it is fitting that we should die for him, remaining firm and constant in the faith, and with this earthly death we will earn eternal life and the glory of martyrdom.”

Blessed Antonio was the first to be beheaded, followed by 799 others.  Tradition holds that Blessed Antonio’s headless body remained standing and could not be knocked down by the Turkish soldiers.  Only when the last of the men was slain did his body collapse of its own accord.  One of the Muslims, seeing this miracle, was converted and professed his faith in Christianity—after which he was immediately impaled upon a scimitar by his own comrades-in-arms.

Antonio-Primaldo-headless-2

From our previous post on the The Skull Cathedral of Otranto (pics).

On August 12, 800 citizens were taken to the hill of Minerva, now called the Hill of the Martyrs, and beheaded because they refused to renounce their Catholic faith. Their remains were taken to the cathedral and the skulls preserved in the altar piece as a prominent reminder of these 800 martyrs.

The Madonna in front of the skulls
Image: Andreas C.

Image: Laurent Massoptier

The Ottoman Wars were motivated by territory gains and eradicating the Christian faith while spreading the Muslim one.

There’s a similar remnant of Muslim jihad in Serbia. See it in our post, Chele Kula: Tower of Skulls.

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  1. The sickness of Islam makes my want to throw up just hearing the words – Islam, Muslim or jihad. The revulsion to Islam is worse than any pain or feeling that could come over a human being. By now, the entire world must be feeling an intense hatred toward all Muslims with every fiber of their being. This is a feeling that has been brought on exclusively by the Muslims and is most deserving.

    May every Muslim on the planet burn in a lake of hell fire for a trillion years in the hereafter.

    • I hear ya – I have the same feelings. I see moslems and the hair on my back sticks up knowing that they bow to their satanic allah thing and fund their violence with their zakat and lie to us about crapslam.

      No, there are still a lot of useful idiots <—emphasis on idiots, out there that will defend what they do not know.

    • Surely it is appropriate to pray for Muslims and wish for their good, not their damnation. Christians should pray that Muslims be delivered from the teachings of hatred promulgated by evil Mullahs.

      • Yes. I agree. We should speak only in words worthy of following the Prince of Peace. He healed the soldier’s ear which Peter had cut in an act of retaliation & misguided carnal defence of our Lord.

      • To ‘Ted’ and ‘Jane’ – If we Christians were to follow your logic of passivity then we would all be totally overrun by satan and his minions. WAKE UP, CHRISTIANS! Christ taught us to pray for our enemies–HE DID NOT SAY that we were to just GIVE IN to their every whim when they obviously want to kill us!!!!! If you think that everyone on this website harbors hatred for muslims then you’re WAY OFF! Of course we (I speak for myself) are deeply grieved for the millions of muslims who are going to hell–BUT THAT DOESN’T PRECLUDE that we shouldn’t try to STOP THEM BY EVERY MEANS AVAILABLE!!!!! AND THIS WEBSITE IS ONE POWERFUL TOOL THAT WE CAN USE TO DRIVE BACK THE FORCES OF EVIL! NEVER FORGET THAT THE SPOKEN (AND WRITTEN) WORD IS FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SWORD!!!!!

        IT IS TOTALLY NAIVE ON YOUR PART TO ASSUME THAT WE CAN SIMPLY IGNORE THE 800LB GORILLA IN THE ROOM! I ASK YOU–IF YOU HAD A DISOBEDIENT CHILD WHO CURSED AND THREATENED YOU WITH KNIVES WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING–WOULD YOU JUST SAY A PRAYER FOR HIM AND QUIETLY GO TO SLEEP?????

        IF SO, THEN (PARDON ME FOR SAYING IT, BUT) YOU’RE NOT JUST SOMEWHAT NAIVE–YOU’RE TOTALLY AND IRREPARABLY IGNORANT AND STUPID!!!!!

        • Hi “dapreach!”

          You’re 100% and more, correct on this one! Problem is, they are representative of the “sheeple” in this country today!

          Like “sheep”… the “people” of the U.S. (and world) follow the “media”…the propaganda machine of the RICH and Governments rather than “common sense” and simple “morals”…irregardless of RACE AND/OR RELIGION!!!

          Take Care and God Bless!

        • It is totally naive on your part to assume that I am irreparably ignorant and stupid. I find this abusive. What I object to here is comments such as “feeling an intense hatred toward all Muslims”.(said Islam is Filth and Sickness). This is plainly hate speech. It is one person, not all here, who not only harbors hatred for Muslims but expresses it. The enemy is “creeping Sharia”: for me anyway.

          • To ‘Jane’ – Oh Geesh! Now you’re really gettin’ pers’nal!

            PLEASE NOTE: “IF SO, IF SO, IF SO”.

            NOBODY’S ACCUSING YOU OF ANYTHING, BUT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU HAVE JUST ACCUSED ME OF A FELONY!!!! THANKS, SISTER–WHAT ELSE YA’ GOT?????

            If you’ve monitored this blog-site for any length of time you would have noted that I have VERY EXPLICITLY spelled out the entire plan of salvation more than once to quite a few individuals. I even allowed one misguided individual to have my personal email address so that I could deal with him on a person to person basis. Unfortunately, he proved himself to be an islamized moron!!!!!

            I might remind you that the blogger who seems to cause you such a problem uses the blog name “Islam is Filth and Sickness”. I personally have no problem whatsoever with that blog name–matter of fact, I kind of like it!!!!! IT’S TIME TO QUIT KOWTOWING TO THESE SEDITIONISTS AND HATERS OF THE CROSS OF CHRIST!!!!!

            I suggest you might want to think twice before you find yourself taking sides with enemy–AND ISLAM SURELY IS THE ENEMY!!!!!

            That’s exactly why Christ told us to PRAY FOR OUR ENEMIES!!! He didn’t say “pray for your friends” because He knows that they are NOT our friends!!!!!

          • That’s RIGHT “dapreach!”

            How does Christ put it? If we should find someone that is “lost” (to God), we should take him/her and guide them to the “word.” If they don’t “get it”…then we should seek help from another. If they still don’t “hear the word”…then we should seek help from “congregation” (from a group, such as “this?”).

            AND, since God gave us “free will”, if they still do not “hear the word”…then we are to “move on” and NOT waste our time on deaf ears as there are those that NEED want to be saved.

            AND THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE EVER DONE…ATTEMPT TO DELIVER THE “GOOD NEWS” HERE!

            Take Care and God Bless!

            Your friend,

            bobby wise

          • So Jane you love humans – all of them? Why do you want women to die if they did adultery? will you throw stones at their heads, while they are buried up to their necks in dirt and take cellphone pics like the Muslims do? Do you think the little hungry boy should have his hand lopped off for stealing bread? Should couples be flogged with whips if they kiss in public? Do you advocate death for honor of you family- kill your sister is she dares dress the wrong way? If you “insult Mohammed or change your religion, should you get a death sentence?

            If you truly loved Muslims as HUMAN beings deserving of inalienable rights endowed by the creator you would want to FREE them from ISLAMIC tyranny and sharia law-

            instead you hate the messengers and the people who REFUSE to submit or tolerate what is not tolerable or JUST or right—–

            your bleeding heart is in the wrong tent my dear

          • Not sure how you reached those conclusions/assumptions. I said that I am against Creeping Sharia; not the website but the infiltration of sharia law. That does not mean that I support sharia practices. If I hate any people then I am a preacher of hate. I am a Christian and Jesus said “Love your enemies”. Guess that could be why his heart bled too.

          • sorry Jane We call the blogger admin here Creeping Sharia and I did think you meant him personally

          • Oh wow! Thanks for telling me. Glad we got that sorted out! I’m only on this site because I am against what is happening in our “free world” due to fact of creeping Sharia. My respects to blogger admin. Oh dear.

        • OK. You did say “IF SO”.

      • nothing short of the Blood of Gods’ Lamb…His only begotten Son… Can save these antichrist.the techings of islam are lies and more lies…they must be born again .. not better muslims.

      • So also is it entirely appropriate to pray for moslem souls and protect our families from their swords.

    • it is not the will of God that any man go to Hell, but that all through Christ might be saved. Only those who choose to Rebel against Jesus have already chosen to go to the Hell that was created for that Rebellious satan and his angels.

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  3. I bet the muslims are livid over this. Especially the Turks. I am curious to know if there will be any criticism of the Pope from muslim scum for this most timely action on his part. It wouldn’t surprise me since muslims are so ethically perverted. They’re evil to the core.

    • I never cease to marvel how that some mindless RETARDS always manage to assert that “Hitler was a Christian” just because of something that he either said or wrote! WOW! WHO KNEW???? And I suppose by the same token that the devil is just a harmless innocent being of peace, harmony and light because his devil worshippers say so!!!!!

      LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!

      HITLER HAD MORE TIES TO THE GRAND MUFTI OF JERUSALEM (WHO HELPED WITH THE EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS) THAN HE EVER DID TO ANYBODY WHO CALLED HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN!!!!! DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH!!!! HITLER WAS A DEVIL!!!! AND SO IS ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE!!!!!

      • “Muslim scum”? “Ethically perverted”? People are made in the image of God and are not scum. How can you see that they are “evil to the core”? Only God sees into hearts. Is it more ethically perverted to dress modestly and preach sex is only OK in marriage OR to have all this promotion of sex outside marriage as we do in the West?

        • To ‘Jane’ – YOU ARE CLEARLY MISGUIDED–BY YOUR VERY COMMENTS YOU BETRAY YOURSELF THAT YOU DON’T SEE THE INHERANT EVIL THAT IS ISLAM!!!!! YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE YOU ARE ON–CHRIST OR ISLAM!!!!!

          EVERY DEMON COMES DRESSED AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WEARING SHEEP’S CLOTHING!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!

      • I agree. It certainly does seem to be a programmed talking point to muslims and their leftist bullhorns. I even had a muslim who while taking me to task over alleged Christian attrocities such as the Crusades (yea, they still cannot grasp the reasons as to why the Crusades were fought), etc, had the audacity to throw in the name of Josef Stalin, lol. It simply didn’t occur to this islamotard that Stalin was atheist like all good communists are supposed to be. Needless to say, I laughed my head off. He was clearly on shaky ground, thespic dire straits, so to speak. You’re dead-on correct about the Hitler/Grand Mufti connection.

    • See my reply to you. It’s come up under dapreach but is to you for saying “scum”, etc.

  4. During what is known as the Little Ice Age, Innocent VIII, in his papal bull Summis desiderantes (5 December 1484) instigated severe measures against magicians and witches in Germany. The grip of freezing weather, failing of crops, rising crime, and mass starvation was blamed on witches. He issued the bull to inquisitors Heinrich Kramer and Jacobus Sprenger to systemize the persecution of witches.[6][7]
    “It has recently come to our ears, not without great pain to us, that in some parts of upper Germany, [...] Mainz, Koin, Trier, Salzburg, and Bremen, many persons of both sexes, heedless of their own salvation and forsaking the catholic faith, give themselves over to devils male and female, and by their incantations, charms, and conjurings, and by other abominable superstitions and sortileges, offences, crimes, and misdeeds, ruin and cause to perish the offspring of women, the foal of animals, the products of the earth, the grapes of vines, and the fruits of trees, as well as men and women, cattle and flocks and herds and animals of every kind, vineyards also and orchards, meadows, pastures, harvests, grains and other fruits of the earth; that they afflict and torture with dire pains and anguish, both internal and external, these men, women, cattle, flocks, herds, and animals, and hinder men from begetting [...]“[8]
    Kramer and Sprenger would later write the polemic Malleus Maleficarum in 1486, which stated that witchcraft was to blame for bad weather. These remarks are included in Part 2, Chapter XV, which is entitled: “How they Raise and Stir up Hailstorms and Tempests, and Cause Lightning to Blast both Men and Beasts”:[9]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Innocent_VIII

    The Muslims are evil and the Catholic/Vatican Church comes in 2nd don’t forget Bloody Mary or Hitler who were Catholic.

    P.S. Tradition holds that Blessed Antonio’s headless body remained standing and could not be knocked down by the Turkish soldiers. Only when the last of the men was slain did his body collapse of its own accord.

    The Catholic Church is famous for exagerated stories and of so called miricales.

    I’m not buying it. “It wouldn’t be prudent. A thousand points of light.”

    I’m just saying.

    • Temporizing and/or relativising in an attempt at neutralizing moslems’ great pride in the murder of innocents is immature. This type game is for high schoolers. Stay on task.

      • Good post and these types of freaks need to learn the messages of islam and Christianity and they would know the difference between bad men following the message of islam and thinking themselves ‘hole-y’ and bad men NOT following the message of Christianity.

    • Hitler was not Catholic. Most sources claim that he was Lutheran. But in reality he was not anything Christian no matter how much he may have claimed it or how much any opponent of Christianity may want him to be ‘christian’.

      • My above comment & response should be with the intro- gram that I was with originally on this page as in ______________

        “All truth will set you free of the moral idiocy in a world gone stupid not just part of it…

        • Yawn. Who cares?

          • Who cares? Learn history and what really is in the babel bible. Other wise you have nothing meaningful to say.

            I take it that you know what is in the Islime Koranic / Satanic book ?

            Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

          • Learn history? Muahahahahahahahaha!!! Practice what you preach fool, you know, “Those people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.” History is history, not some relative thing that nutters tweak to suit their flavor of the moment, especially when they’re arrogant to the point that they figure they can pull the proverbial wool over the eyes of people they erroneously assume to have little to no historical knowlege. Most thinking people would call that hubris. You lost all pretense of credibility with your poorly reasoned, chronologically-inept Tindall [sic] tirade. You sir, are a blithering idiot, and have absolutely nothing valuable to say here. Nor I anything further to say to you.

      • Maybe I stand corrected.

        “Adolf Hitler was raised by a Catholic father and a devout Catholic mother; he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood and supported the Deutsche Christen church which rejected the Hebrew origins of the Gospel.[1] In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity.”

        Scource: Wikipediea

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_beliefs

        Then maybe not ?

        http://religionpoisons.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/the-vatican-and-the-nazis/

    • two wrongs make it right??
      as for comparisons:
      More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined.

      Hitler was an occultist – he replaced Jesus with photos of himself- like all SOCIALIST megalomaniacs———his goal was to eliminate ALL religions and replace them with HERO worship of himself- buy a history book- in EVERY classroom in Germany and Austria the crucifix w/Jesus was replaced by a photo of Hitler

      • just saying

      • No silly, 2 wrongs do not make a right. It is like 1 x 1 = 1 or wrong = wrong.

        I was not comparing Hitler to Islam as in good or right. Where did I say that !!!!! ?

        Where on earth happened to your mind ?

        I’m just saying

        • your words- The Muslims are evil and the Catholic/Vatican Church comes in 2nd don’t forget Bloody Mary or Hitler who were Catholic.– you sure did make a lame attempt at moral equivalence- short memory? they have pills for that- just saying

        • Shove it and beat it creep! We don’t need divisive morons playing games with irrelevant moral equivallence nonsense. Does anybody see Catholics doing the things muslims do today? Of course not, and don’t you dare mention Catholic Priests and pedophilia. The Church never sanctioned such practices unlike islam which does, and is quite a widespread practice in dar al-islam, and far more prevailent than in the West, not withstanding the muslim sex-trafficing gangs now becomming more and more common here.

          just saying

          • @randy63ism the Catholic Church sanctions all the time by just moving these pedophiles around to other churches.

            I know my cousin was molested by a Catholic Priest and he stayed. The Catholic church did nothing to rectify this creatine.

            So spare me of your rose fucking glasses that you wear.

            Tim Minchin – Fuck the motherfuckin POPE 720p FUNNY AS HELL (Anti child rape song)

          • Yes ‘randdy63ism’ and may we never forget that the liaisons between the jihadi “martyrs, i.e. murderers” and their 72 ‘virgins’ is by no means limited nor exclusive to the unbridled sexual fantasies with the ‘virgins’! NO, NO, NO, AU CONTRARE (sp?)!!! I have documented info as per, none other than a converted former jihadi terrorist–namely WALID SHOEBAT–that the terrorist bombers, et al., have great anticipation of having wild sex orgies with “little boys” and other male counterparts!!!!! HEY, WHY NOT–ANYTHING GOES WHEN YOU’RE ALREADY IN HELL!!!!!

    • it has been said that not only did Rome collaborate in islams formation but winked as the first millions of early christians were slaughtered by these assassins…islam…
      it seems their lady of fatima confreres were chompin at the bit to perrform their hearts desire and no friend of anyone.

  5. Happy Sunday to all fellow believers in Christ Jesus from the Holy Bible.

    I pray often for Muslims to get saved. I will die for my Lord and Savior if that is his will (although my heart’s desire is not by beheading).

    Have a blessed day brethren knowing His return is near. Maranotha!

  6. They would have been killed for not renouncing Jesus Christ. It has nothing to do with sects of Christianity, but Jesus Christ. Muslims view Christians as anyone with the testimony of Jesus Christ.

  7. HEY “All truth will set you free of the moral idiocy in a world gone stupid not just part of it….” –

    You really are proving yourself to be stupider than your HEADLESS, mindless blog rant!!! KEEP IT UP–IT’S GREAT ENTERTAINMENT!!!

    ‘TIS WISER TO KEEP ONE’S MOUTH SHUT, AND BE THOUGHT AN IGNORAMOUS THAN TO OPEN ONE’S MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT!!!!!

  8. Creeping Sharia has not let me give balanced information about Hitler and his ties with Christianity and the Vatican on there website.

    I believe that Creeping Sharia is under the wrongful conclusion that we only embolden the warped Islamic BS by speaking out freely about the weakness of Christianity and or any other religion.

    Oh contrare, It will give the Muslims a different perspective that there wasn’t a real Jesus as they believe as do the Christians.
    Using the Jesus story to counter act the Islamic peoples amoral ways simply does not work to change them for the better unless maybe you lie to make the Jesus character all sweetness and light.
    With qoutes by the Jesus character saying love one another to contradicting himself saying……

    “Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14
    Subjection: Bring, make under domination or control, esp. by conquest.

    Matthew 10:34. “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

    35 “For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law';36 “and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’
     
    “And that servant [slave], which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.”
    (Luke 12:47) He never denounced servitude, incorporating the master-slave relationship into many of his parables.

    By the way the word Lord comes from Europe. A Lord was a land owner. You could not leave the Lord (land owner) without his permission. If you did you would be captured/ punished or killed by the Lord…….Look up the futile system in Europe. Why do you think our relatives left Europe? It is pure ignorance to say Jesus is Lord………

    The burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus:
    “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:6)
    If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26+-

    Since the letter J did not come in to the English language until the first translation in English. Before that it was a swoosh marking after Roman Numerals.

    It is very conceviable that the court of King James wrote the Bable Bible based off another’s translation which was historically the first English translation by William Tindall for which King James had him murdered for apostasy.

    Why else would King James have him put to death? It was so he could have the power to decide what was in this book called the bible. For like any dictator of his day be it King, Earl, or Pope.
    You see, back then people went to mass that was spoken in Latin. The commoners did not know what was being said only gestures and I can tell you King James was not literate either. He had his court of men piece meal It together with additions and changes from Tindal’s translation for which he was schooled in Latin,Greek and Hebrew. The German bibles came after using Tindalls translation.

    Know that or remember your history that the Romans conquered western Europe and brought and forced Christianity among them. After all Rome was the conquer and wanted the people to pay their taxes to Rome. This is a clear reason why the Jesus Character was friendly with the tax payers in the bible story. The Jews certainly were not always in agreement with the dominating power of Rome. For they were still looking for a savior for their people and to them it was not Rome.
    An intersting fact is that Ceaser noted in his writings that some of the peoples of the Western part of Europe practiced the burnning of people in wicker that is with bound wood as in wicker. A practice of pre-Christian rule where by Christianity would be thwarted on to the people of Western Europe by Roman Conquers .
    Greek culture influenced the Roman Empire with it’s many myth stories as well as the other peoples in Rome with their myth stories is most telling when comparing to the later myth of Jesus.
    Tummuz (Damuzid) of Summaria, Babylonia & Assyria was the was a lengendary story/myth deity or god of food and vegitation and considered the faithfull or true son.
    Recent discoveries reconfirm him as an annual life-death-rebirth deity: tablets discovered in 1963 show that Dumuzi was in fact consigned to the Underworld himself, in order to secure Inanna’s release, though the recovered final line reveals that he is to revive for six months of each year (see below).
    In cult practice, the dead Tammuz was widely mourned in the Ancient Near East.
    These mourning ceremonies were observed even at the very door of the Temple in Jerusalem in a vision the Israelite prophet Ezekiel was given, which serves as a Biblical prophecy which expresses Yahweh’s message at His people’s apostate worship of idols:
    “Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord’s house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. Then said he unto to me, ‘Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.” —Ezekiel 8:14-15

    Do you see the theme here as in life-death-rebirth & true son in comparison to the Jesus story? This all beginning with food & vegitation and relationship with the seasons of the summer soltice when the sun becomes less and has it’s rebirth in Spring and lives in the summer then dies again at the summer soltice.
    Scource : Wikipedia

    Joseph Campbell “the dead and resurrected god Tammuz (Sumerian Dumuzi), prototype of the Classical Adonis, who was the consort as well as son by virgin birth, of the goddess-mother of many names: Inanna, Ninhursag, Ishtar, Astarte, Artemis, Demeter, Aphrodite, Venus” (in Oriental Mythology: The Masks of God pp 39-40).

    The myth of Tummuz is just one of the many myths that similarly compare to the Jesus story but with other atributes of the Jesus story.

    • Stop lying. We don’t know who you are and don’t care and don’t stop anyone from saying anything here – regardless of how incoherent or abhorrent it might be.

      • To ‘CS’ – Touché!!! My, my, how ironic that you ‘allowed’ Mr. ‘Just Saying’ to rant on and on and on about religious concepts that he has completely taken out of context and twisted by his convoluted way of ‘reasoning’ but that —

        “Creeping Sharia has not let me give balanced information about Hitler and his ties with Christianity and the Vatican on there [sic] website.”

        My, my you really should be more OPEN-MINDED to those who have completely lost theirs!!!!!

        P.S. Hey ‘Just Saying’ – Hitler was about as much a Christian as BHO!!!!! GO SHOVEL COAL–TROLL!!!!!

      • Well I have to say that’s true, what Creeping wrote. What I write here is often unpopular(!), especially with Christians, but Ive never seen Creeping take down any of my posts. Or prevent me from posting again either.

        Interesting information in your post, whoever you are. But you can find the paganism of Catholicism by looking at what was adopted at the Nicene Councils as foundational doctrines and beliefs of Christianity. TOTALLY pagan. And the Protestants took most of it with them as well.

        People dont realise that Islam and Judaism are much, much closer in belief than Christianity and Judaism are. By far – Judaism and Christianity have almost nothing in common at all. So sometimes they get a bit upset. But education is usually a good thing.

    • To ‘I am just saying’ – JUST DON’T!!!! SHUT UP! YOU’RE DUMBER THAN DIRT!!! BETTER YET–GO CHOP OFF YOUR OWN HEAD AND DO THE REST OF US A HUGE FAVOR!!!!

      P.S. I’m jus’ kinda wonderin’ what you’re gonna say some day when JESUS stares you in your face and asks you, “WHY DID YOU HATE ME SO MUCH?????” TRUST ME, THAT DAY WILL COME!!!!! SOONER THAN YOU THINK!!!!! IF I WERE YOU I’D STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!

      OH, AND, I’M NOT JUS’ SAYIN’!!!!!

      • Grow up depreach1 nobody walks on water or turns water in to wine or uses their spit to heal people except magicians or charlatans.

        • OR GOD!!!!

          OOPS, I FORGOT YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT ‘CAUSE YOU ARE GOD, HUH?????

          P.S. SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TO ANSWER FOR WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MEET HIM!!!!! YOU SUNDAY SCHOOL BOYS ALWAYS AMAZE ME! YOU’RE ABLE TO QUOTE EVERY CHAPTER AND VERSE AND YET YOU USE IT TO CHOP OFF YOUR OWN HEADS!!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!!

    • You are so full of shit your eyes must be doo doo brown and infested with flies. I am only going to slam one of your errors among several simply because I don’t usually give my valuable time to nutters like you. William Tyndale (not Tindall) died in 1536 in Brussels, not in England, speaking of which had yet to see a Stuart King. When Tyndale was executed the Tudor, Henry VIII was king. James Stuart was born in 1566, several years after Tyndale’s death and became King of Scotland as James VI in 1567 while barely a year old, only to become King of England as James I in 1603. That is why he is referred to by historians as James VI and I. Chronologically challenged are we? Get your shit straight before posting comments next time. Better yet, go troll elsewhere because i’m through with you and your tinfoil hat tirades.

      Now, please kindly do us all a favor and go stick your head in your microwave, the adults are trying to have a conversation here.

      “Just sayin’.”

      • Thanks “randy…” for enlightening the rest of us!

        AND, please,.continue to “correct” anything that NEEDS to be corrected as the “truth” should always be “TOLD!”

        • You’re welcome Bobby. These trolls, whether intentional or not, do nothing but obsfucate from the topic being discussed, derailling the train of conversation, usually as an attempt to take ownership of the discussion at hand. This fellow is actually mild compared to that Afrocentric, revisionist troll from S. Carolina who called herself Phoenix a few months ago. She was off her meds crazy! You might remember her and her spam attacks. A couple of years ago on youtube, I got into it with a female troll who claimed J.S. Bach was a black man, and that it was a white conspiracy that allegedly supressed the truth of Bach’s race. Now get this, the woman was white! and married to a Filipino at that! Weird huh?

      • @ randyism so you got me on a technocality about who killed William Tynsdale or Tyndall, Tnydale ( wikipedia gives several spellings to his name by the way:) Not that wikipedia can be totally relied on for accurate information.
        I got a little careless but to add to the point of who actually had him killed it was King Henery the VIII because William Tyndale In 1530 wrote The Practyse of Prelates, opposing Henry VIII’s divorce to Catherine.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

        However, it also very possibe that the Catholic Church was wanting his death as well because of his influence of Martin Luther in his translation of the bible.

        Just becauase I made an error which I am admitting to does not mean everything else I said is untrue.

        :)

    • it’s obvious that you’re more involved in hate of Jesus than in truth. it’s futile to even bother trying to answer your rants. the “facts” you quote are grossly skewed.

      • No KittyF you can not hate someone who never exsited in the first place.

        It is you who is the one that is skewed and the Queen of denial.

        http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

        • To ‘….just saying’ – YOU’RE DUMBER THAN DIRT AND YOU’RE GOING TO HELL!!!!!

          AHEMMM! Let me repeat that….

          YOU’RE DUMBER THAN DIRT AND YOU’RE GOING TO HELL!!!!!

          Hey ‘….just saying’ – Here’s what I’M “JUS’ SAYIN'” — IF I’M WRONG ABOUT THAT (YA’ KNOW, THE ‘GOING TO HELL’ THINGY) THEN WE’RE ALL “HOME FREE” RIGHT????? I MEAN, NO JESUS, NO GOD, NO JUDGMENT, NO HEAVEN, NO HELL–HECK, JUST ME AND THE WIDE OPEN DEEP BLUE SEA. WOW! NOW I CAN REALLY LIVE THE WAY I WANT! RIGHT???

          NO RESTRICTIONS, NO EVIL PARENTAL REGS, NO ONE BREATHING DOWN MY NECK OR WATCHING MY EVERY MOVE–WHEW! LIFE’S A BEACH!!!! WOW!!!!

          BUT JUST SUPPOSE, FOR ONE BRIEF FLEETING MOMENT, THAT (JUST SAYIN’) I’M NOT WRONG? WHAT IF I’M NOT WRONG?????
          WHAT IF I’M NOT WRONG?????
          WHAT IF I’M NOT WRONG?????
          AND I’M DEFINITELY NOT “JUST SAYIN”!!!!!

  9. “Islam” the religion of peace…once you’re DEAD!

    • I agree “bobby90247″ ! ! !

      Islime is a cult of deceit, pedophiles, thieves,slavery, the gullible, sadomasochism, sadism and needless suffering.

      Just pure rotten stupidity it is.

  10. I didn’t see one word about this in the main stream press. That is more than a little odd for a pope that is resigning, as one of his last acts in the office. Strange that the press would be so self-censoring of this newsworthy act.

    That should set even the atheists’ teeth on edge.

  11. [ Pope Canonizes 800 Italian Martyrs Beheaded by Muslims for Refusing to Renounce Faith ... ]

    What CRAP!!, who are they kidding? It’s both “Catholicism & Islam” that slaughtered these innocent people. After all who created Islam? Of course by all means it is the Vatican!! http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html
    It’s Blood they are always after and Yahshua Messiah tells us that in the Book of Revelation Chapter 17:
    THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH drunk with the BLOOD of the Martyrs… Read more here … http://www2.ministries-online.org/biometrics/aglobgov3.html

    • @ Wisdom though I agree with your sentiments that the Catholic Church is full of crap. The story of Jesus or Yeshua originated out of Rome.

      The Jesus or Yashua as some of the contempary Jews agree to
      Is still a story that is made of myth and opinion.

      As is the Tenach,Torah & Talmud written CE

      All religion is man made and man inspired.

      Period End.

      http://www.truthbeknown.com/

      Truth Be Known http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm

      • AM – One minute of browsing thru website and I learned all I need to know. First of all you are embedded into a doctrine of demons, a mixture of the new age, and complete confusion, so how can you know anything about the Tenach, Torah or the Talmud, etc.? The mere fact that you are mixing Jesus with Yahshua is your sheer ignorance, you don’t even know the difference between these two entities.
        In order to know who YAHSHUA is you need Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding and the Discernment and this is found in the TORAH. People like you no matter how highly educated, will NEVER receive these Spiritual gifts from the One and Only Creator of Heaven and Earth, the Great God of Israel. Your doctrine is the doctrine of “Jezebel the witch queen” – if you don’t know who she is then find out. For a clue, you will find her ONLY in the TORAH haha!! – The TORAH reveals all good and bad things including wicked people just like you so that TORAH followers can take precaution – in other words TORAH gives us DISCERNMENT against people like you and your ugly satanic doctrine.
        Btw, I do agree with you when you say that all religions are man-made, OF COURSE they ALL are including yours but — the TORAH is SET-APART It is NOT a “religion” – It is a RELATIONSHIP with the Higher Power, The Creator whom we call ABBA. TORAH never mixes with evil It is the only Light that leads to the Truth –– and NOT your freaking astrology and ‘new age’ garbage – a confusion of the Devil a wide road in which you are walking into the ETERNAL BURNING LAKE OF NO RETURN. Have Fun!!!

  12. To ‘isahiah62′ – On a note totally unrelated to the person to whom you addressed your last comment, i.e., ‘Jane’, please allow me to applaud the incredible insight which you have toward the evil that is inherently islam.

    I dare any muslim to deny that the practices which you pointed out, (see below) are taking place every day within the nations that are controlled by sharia laws!!!!

    I.e., “do you want women to die if they did adultery? will you throw stones at their heads, while they are buried up to their necks in dirt and take cellphone pics like the Muslims do? Do you think the little hungry boy should have his hand lopped off for stealing bread? Should couples be flogged with whips if they kiss in public? Do you advocate death for honor of you family- kill your sister is she dares dress the wrong way? If you “insult Mohammed or change your religion, should you get a death sentence?”

    Ya’ know, ‘isahiah62′, THESE THINGS NEED TO SHOUTED FROM THE HOUSETOPS EVERY DAY–JUST LIKE THE MUSLIMS ANNOUNCE THEIR TIME FOR “prayer” BY BLASTING THEIR VILE MINARETS 5 TIMES A DAY!!!!!

    • There are those of “us” who continually “shout out” every day about the atrocities of “Islam!” It seems as if we just aren’t “LOUD ENOUGH!”

      There have been four attempts to “Impeach, Obozo”…three last year before the election and one, right after! The last one “had” quite a following…what happened?

      “Islam” is a “CULT” in more ways than one as “defined” by the U.S. government. It demands the overthrow of the American justice system! That alone, is reason enough for the Federal government to “outlaw” it’s practices and remove all those from this country!!!

      This is my question…How do “WE, the People…” join together, as one, to demand the government take action against these peoples?” They (the Fed’s) did it at Waco, TX. Why aren’t they doing it with Islam???

      Yeah…I know the answer, the “money!”

      “WE, the People…” are giving them the money! How do we cut them off?

      • Looking at the Bible, and the state of our nation, and the weird complicity of the news media, the congress and the judiciary, I think we can all safely say that the USA as we knew it is doomed. it won’t be long now, before people will know why they SHOULD have been more concerned about their liberty and less concerned that the Government do what they should have been doing personally (to take care of the poor, etc).
        But the Bible says that if one says RACCA to another he has committed Murder. And from what I can find, Racca is a word that was used to show contempt. To me that means we shouldn’t be showing contempt or even thinking contemptuously toward others. Those who follow Islam are being fooled by the devil. They deserve our pity, and if we’re following Jesus, we’ll show HIs love toward them, that they may learn that Jesus Loves them, unlike their mullahs or Allah. not all will recognize or be brave enough to follow, but God loves the children of Lot and the children of Ishmael just as much as anybody else. we’ve just been fortunate enough to have learned it and accepted it earlier. And many of us have been blessed that we didn’t have to turn our backs on our families and our culture to accept it.

        I don’t think we can stop what’s going on, but let’s Remember that showing contempt towards them is never going to win even one to our Lord.

        • Hi KittyF, I agree. For a Christian, speaking the truth in love is what we are meant to be doing. Jesus said we should be wise as serpents and gentle as doves. Reading your post here cheered me up a lot but I do not give up hope that we can have influence on people we meet and on national leaders. Some non-Muslim people will shut their ears to what we need to tell them about Islam. More so if it sounds like we do have contempt for Muslims. We can affect these folk in an everyday way by sharing information we learn on sites such as this one. You can stop quite a lot in this way; by using the freedom of speech we do have.

  13. Something I said or something you ate? Sounds like there’s plenty of bile behind the comment of hope that I may be raped?! You don’t know any black liberal lefties? People of all different colours get abused as “scum” and God loves them all. So I won’t worry too much over your post. I’ll just keep learning and telling about Islam.

  14. I need to make a correction of my rant. When refering to the letter j and that some Jews refer to it as yashua or yod I meant to say that in reference to the name Jesus. I was up late gathering my information in putting in format. I did not proof read very well for I am passionate in this debate.

    Peace

    • this Yashua nonsense is only used by Messianic “Jews” & “black Hebrews” replacement theologists (claim to be a lost tribe lol) who are not Jewish but Christians doing Judaism-like rituals or keeping kosher- they think Jesus did not rescind the laws, so they think they must do them- but still at the heart of it—> if they think Jesus was the Messiah they are most definitely not Jews.

  15. I want to make a correction to my rant in relation to me speaking of the letter j. I made an error of not explaining that the some Jews believe that Jesus comes from the word Yashua or yod (hand).

    Peace

    Used another name so maybe you would post

  16. OMG, who spilled the beans on Wal-Mart’s half-price sale on Reynold’s Wrap products? Who? If only the price of aluminum would go up per pound, perhaps some sanity will return. Just Maybe?

    IT’S THE ISLAM PEOPLE!!! AND IT COMES FROM MUHAMMAD’S SINISTER MIND, NOT ROME!!!

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