Free Speech for Muslims in US military, but not non-Muslims

Update: Apparently this guy was given a chance and persisted.  But again, the lines are blurring between rules for Muslims and rules for the rest of America:  Marine Corps discharges sergeant for Facebook posts critical of Obama

 A sergeant will be discharged for criticizing President Obama on Facebook in a case that called into question the Pentagon’s policies about social media and its limits on the speech of active duty military personnel, the Marine Corps said Wednesday.

Sgt. Gary Stein will get an other-than-honorable discharge and lose most of his benefits for violating the policies, the Corps said.

“I think 99 percent of the soldiers and Marines currently on duty understand the duties of supporting the chain of command and understand their rights of free speech are limited,” he [former Army colonel and military prosecutor] said.

via Foreign and Domestic Intelligencer: Political Speech and U.S. Troops.

U.S. Troops have been getting in trouble for political speech during the past few months. First, there was the Soldier who appeared on stage in uniform at a Ron Paul rally. Then, a Marine got in trouble for his opinions.

It’s interesting how things change in just a few years. You see, a few years back U.S. Muslim soldier Nasser Abdo appeared on Al-Jazeera TV (in full uniform) to denounce the U.S. Abdo never got in trouble for doing this; he only got in trouble after the government allegedly found him in possession of child porn and later still after he allegedly planned to massacre U.S. Troops a la Nidal Hasan.

On or about the same time, U.S. Muslim soldier Zachari Klawonn went on Al-Jazeera TV (in full uniform) to denounce the U.S.

And if is accurate, not only did Klawonn not get in trouble for doing this, the Army actually approved his right to do what he did. From

A spokesman for Fort Hood told that, as an American, Klawonn had a right to express his views and that he had informed his commanding officer that he was going to appear on Al-Jazeera. The spokesman said the Army did not agree with what Klawonn said.

Also from

Chris Haug, Army branch chief of media relations for Fort Hood, told that Klawonn has the right to share his personal opinions with the media, even though the Army disagrees with the statements Klawonn made, which Haug said were “inaccurate.”

“He’s an American citizen” Haug said. “As long as there is no security risk, the military can’t stop him from speaking to groups like Al-Jazeera or saying these type of things.”

Haug said Klawonn informed his battalion commander that he would be speaking to Al-Jazeera.

“(Klawonn) informed Lt. Col. Douglas White about this interview on August 24th at 8:23 a.m.,” Haug said. “He expressed an interest in raising the Muslim awareness around the post–to express a positive image for Muslims, and so forth. He’s been working directly with our spiritual fitness center. There’s been quite a bit of movement in terms of movement in the Muslim community in a very positive way.”

That was 2010. The rules are no longer the same.

Various Milbloggers have ridiculed and/or condemned the Soldier at the Paul rally and the Marine who expressed his opinions, saying that Troops do not have the same free speech rights as civilians. And I’m sure people will find minor details on how Abdo’s and Klawonn’s cases are different from what the Paul supporter and Marine did, and therefore they will claim the Muslim soldiers were right while the Paul supporter and Marine were wrong. I get that. And I get that there used to be a standard for what Troops could and could not do.

But what we are witnessing is Alinsky-ism at its finest: use our own morals/standards to destroy us. In other words, the left is counting on conservatives and others who are Right-of-left to condemn and destroy anyone (Right or left) who speaks contrary to the leftist agenda while currently serving in the Armed Forces (even while not in uniform).

And more to the point, Understanding The Slave Mentality:

In the initial stages of nearly every recorded tyranny, the saucer eyed dumbstruck masses exhibit astonishing and masterful skill when denying reality.  The facts behind their dire circumstances and of their antagonistic government become a source of cynical psychological gameplay rather than a source of legitimate concern.  Their desperate need to maintain their normalcy bias creates a memory and observation vacuum in which all that runs counter to their false assumptions and preconceptions disappears forever.  It is as if they truly cannot see the color of the sky, or the boot on their face.  The concrete world of truth becomes a dream, an illusion that can be heeded or completely ignored depending on one’s mood.  For them, life is a constant struggle of dissociation, where the tangible is NOT welcome…

I was recently looking into the divisive issue of U.S. Marine Sgt. Gary Stein, whose position has come under threat due to his criticisms of Barack Obama and his founding of the ‘Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook Page’.  What I discovered was a large number of Americans in support of Stein’s right to speak as a citizen (even under Marine regulations) against the unconstitutional actions of any president or presidential candidate.  I also discovered a considerable number who wanted to see the soldier dishonorably discharged, or even set upon a noose as punishment.

Surely, we can debate over the details of Marine regulations until our ears bleed, and I could point out several facts that the mainstream media did not cover in their hit pieces on Stein (like the fact that he went to his superiors and asked them to advise him in the handling of his political position long before the present charges against him were ever formulated, and the fact that he followed many of their suggestions…), but ultimately, the regulations of the Marines or the Federal Government are irrelevant.  Such laws are transitory, and are usually written so broadly that the authorities of the day can execute them however they wish to fit their needs at the moment.  The real question here is one of principle, moral compass, and Constitutionality (a document which is a reflection of eternal natural law).  We have to set aside the pointless legalese of defense standards in the case of Sgt. Stein and ask ourselves an important question; do U.S. troops have a right to free speech?

If you believe so, then their rights are not limited or exclusive.  They are free to say whatever any other American has a right to say.  If you believe they do not, then you have relegated the troops to the position of second class citizens, or even property of the state.  There is NO in-between.  Discipline and military coherence be damned.  Either these men and women have First Amendment protections and are full citizens or they are mechanisms of the government whose civil liberties have been erased.

Even though I understand the psychology behind it, I am still shaken with raw electrical astonishment when confronted by those who support the latter notion that American soldiers are indeed property of the state, that their actions must be dictated by the president and not the Constitution, and that this is required for the military to function.

I bring up the circumstances of Sgt. Stein to illustrate the situation our nation is currently facing; we are on the threshold of total despotism, where the naysayers who shrugged off the threat of rogue government yesterday suddenly embrace it and support it today.

…switching gears to fight for the implementation of unconstitutional laws which they used to deny were even possible.

There are no limits to the surrealist hell that can be unleashed when dealing with what I like to call the “Slave Mentality”.

The True Slave: The true slave is not a person who has been shackled, beaten, tortured, and made to comply under threat of death.  As long as that poor soul has the spirit of rebellion and is ever seeking freedom, they are not imprisoned fully.  The true slave is a person who enjoys their subservience, who is weighted with fear by the very idea of independence from the system, and who would actually fight and die to maintain the establishment which enslaves them.  The true slave is not able to imagine living any other life beyond his micro-managed existence.

The Facts Lose Value: The worst flaw of the slave is not necessarily his ability to overlook the truth, but his ability to see it, comprehend it, and then shrug it off anyway because it is contrary to his mission to fulfill his private delusions.  For the slave, the truth exists, but is no longer useful.  Lies make his universe turn, and facts are a tool to be used or cast aside at his leisure.

There’s more and it probably warrants reposting in full to once again highlight how we are losing our freedoms and there are those among us plotting to take full advantage.

7 thoughts on “Free Speech for Muslims in US military, but not non-Muslims

  1. Creeping is a good description of the muzzies. Creeping like a slow growing cancer that shows few symptoms til it’s too late. These are ugly people that hate our guts and are willling to die as long as we do too. Our Prez is busy spreading the wealth and soon there will be no wealth to spread.

  2. Article 88 UCMJ prohibits PARTISAN POLITICAL SPEECH. The military encourages voting-not showing preference for one candidate or another. This will collapse when MOSLEMITES run for office because THEY are religious not political people.
    I was on active duty from ’71 to ’74. This was an issue, especially with officers and senior NCOs because they could influence the lower ranks, or so it was said.

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  4. Sgt. Stein goes before the courts tomorrow. I hope his lawyer is a good one. The stories above in the newletter are not law, however I hope they are used in his defense.

  5. US Armed Forces Personnel are restricted, as per the Uniform Code of Military Justice, in what they can and cannot say. As we have an all-volunteer armed force in the US, they chose to sign up and put themselves under the regulations. Soldiers, Seamen, Airmen and Marines ARE property of the United States. Every person signing up understands this, or will understand this, rather swiftly.

    Still and all, I do believe that it should be enforced ACROSS THE BOARD, and REGARDLESS OF RELIGIOUS (Or Religo-political, in the case of Islam) AFFILIATION. I also think that anyone who professes Islam as their “religion” should be barred from joining the US Armed Forces, as Islam is more political than spiritual, and the Muslim’s first allegieance is to be to the “Umma” (Worldwide Community of Muslims), not to whatever nation they are nominal citizens of.

  6. BO thinks he an pressure enough military to quit, he can put mohommedists in their place. Then he has his own military as any good dictator would.
    So Guys and Gals in the military today, don’t quit we need the good guys in. If not we are all screwed.
    This POTUS is not for America. He is for the 58 States of Islam. The New World Order [The Caliphate].
    Please don’t quit!!!!!!

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