New Mexico: “Understanding Islam” event at Lutheran church spreads falsehoods about Islam

Source: New Mexico: “Understanding Islam” event at Lutheran church spreads falsehoods about Islam

“Islam, Christianity and Judaism all look to Abraham as the father of our faith traditions,” Carson said. “Understanding one another’s traditions is important to share peace and understanding in our community.”

“Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim. And he was not of the polytheists.” (Qur’an 3:67)

“There has already been for you an excellent pattern in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, ‘Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone’ except for the saying of Abraham to his father, ‘I will surely ask forgiveness for you, but I have not for you anything against Allah. Our Lord, upon You we have relied, and to You we have returned, and to You is the destination.” (Qur’an 60:4) In other words, Abraham is an excellent pattern for believers when he tells his unbelieving relatives that “there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone,” but not when he says to his father, “I will surely ask forgiveness for you.”

“I have realized that when people hear a narrative repeated often enough, they will buy into it — even when that narrative is false.” Indeed. That’s what this dialogue in Las Cruces is all about: repeating that false narrative so that more people will buy into it.

“What I learned here today that I did not understand at all about Islam or the Muslims is that they really respect all nations, and believe that it’s OK to have many religions,” said Carol Peterson, a participant from Peace Lutheran, speaking after the February event. “They believe that basically there’s one God. I was under the impression that Muslims wanted all of us to be one, wanted us to be like they are. But they respect us. I didn’t know that, and that blew my mind — because I thought that was the purpose of all this turmoil in our world. I thought they wanted us to become Muslim.”

“And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.” (Qur’an 3:85)

“And fight them until there is no fitnah and the religion, all of it, is for Allah.” (Qur’an 8:39)

“Understanding Islam: Las Cruces church creates dialogue,” by Damien Willis, Las Cruces Sun-News, March 21, 2016

The second “Understanding Islam” discussion will take place from 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at Peace Lutheran Church, 1701 E. Missouri Ave. The event is free and open to the public, and you do not need to have participated in the first dialogue to attend.

“We are not really scholars of theology, we’re just regular common folks explaining the way we understand it,” Dawood said. “The one on Tuesday will be even better than the first one, I think. We’ll be talking about ISIS, and some of the hot-button issues you see on the news. The sound bites you hear really aren’t helping anyone. As Muslims in the U.S., we’ll go into the way it’s impacting us.”…

“Impacting us,” not the victims of jihad terrorism. So apparently the talk will be dedicated to showing how Muslims are victims, and “Islamophobia,” not jihad terrorism, is the problem.


Read it all at Jihad Watch.

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12 Responses

  1. Thus the name “Creeping Sharia!” There Islam is creeping into the churches. While the Pope criticizes Trump for wanting to build a wall, the Pope forgets the history behind the wall of his own home! All anyone with any common sense needs to know is a few basic things about the life of their so-called prophet. PLEASE VOTE FOR TRUMP AND MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

  2. Why not Christianity,Judaism then slime? Or even chronologically? Why is the religion of peace first? Also do these people want to commit religious suicide?

  3. Here is what I wrote Rev. Carson.

    Dear Rev. Carson,

    It has been reported that you are holding interfaith discussions in your church with local mosque leaders who are telling your congregation that Muslims and Christians worship the same God of Abraham, that Islam is tolerant of other religions, that Islamic terrorist activities do not represent Islam. These statements are demonstrably false.

    To be sure, Americans need more information about other religious faiths. Your efforts to provide that for your congregation are commendable, but, based on reports of your current initiative, your discussion panels (as presently arranged) will not result in better understanding. Please let me make a few important points:

    1. Muslims almost always orchestrate these dialogues so they take place in Christian churches and Jewish temples, not in mosques. Muslims will not permit other religions to discuss their faith within their own facilities, so beware of Muslims explaining their religion in your church.

    2. When Muslims explain their religious ideology to non-Muslims they are obligated to lie about Islam if telling the truth would discredit the faith. This is clearly spelled out in Islamic Sharia Law. (See http://concit.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/reliance2_complete.pdf section r8.2 – Permissible Lying)

    3. Sayyid Qutb, one of the modern ideologues for Islam, has urged Muslims to establish bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims, but those bridges must be “one-way” affairs: “The correct procedure is to mix with discretion, give and take with dignity, speak the truth with love, and show the superiority of the [Islamic] Faith with humility. . .The chasm between Islam and Jahiliyyah [non-Muslim ignorance] is great, and a bridge is not to be built across it so people on the two sides may mix with each other, but only so that the people of Jahiliyyah may come over to Islam . . . .” (Milestones, page 140)

    4. Christians are urged in letter from St. Jude to be contenders for the faith: “. . . I felt the need of writing at once to encourage you to fight for the faith which once and for all God has given to his people. For some godless people have slipped in unnoticed among us, persons who distort the message about the grace of our God in order to excuse their immoral ways, who reject Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord . . . .” One of the distortions is for Muslims to claim that Islam is an Abrahamic faith in common with Christianity and Judaism.

    Here is what I suggest you do to ensure that there is a true, honest, dialogue between Christians and Muslims in your community:

    1. Make sure there are non-Muslim speakers on your panel who are knowledgeable about Islam – just to keep your Muslim spokespersons honest. Here are some people in your area to contact: (Information provided.)

    2. Test the sincerity of your Muslim counterparts by suggesting that you give a short sermon to their Friday prayer service congregation to correct the misunderstandings in the Quran about Christianity. Here are eleven false claims in the Quran:
    a) The Bible has been corrupted (Surah 2:79 and 2:91, Surah 5:13 and Bukhari, Vol. 9, Number 461)
    b) Mary, the mother of Jesus, was Amram’s daughter and Moses’ sister (Surahs 3:34 and 66:12)
    c) Mary grew up in the Temple under the care of Zacharias (Surah 5:37)
    d) Jesus spoke from the cradle (Surah 19:30)
    e) Jesus was not the Son of God (Surah 19:36
    f) Jesus denied he was the Son of God (Surah 5:116)
    g) The Trinity consists of Jesus, God, and Mary (Surah 4:171 and 5:116)
    h) Jesus was not crucified (Surah 4:156-158)
    i) The Gospel tells Christians to “kill and be killed” for the sake of God in order to get to Paradise. (Surah 9:111)
    j) Muhammad was foretold in the Bible (Surah 7:157)
    k) Jews claim that Ezra was the Son of God. (Surah 9:30)

    3. All interfaith exchanges should be followed by an opportunity for people in the audience to ask questions and expect responsive answers. The Muslims should not be allowed to “control the microphone” or give evasive answers to specific questions. (In the interfaith dialogues I have witnessed, the Muslims often set ground-rules for the discussion that put certain topics off limits. That defeats the whole purpose of the interfaith exchange.)

    • Excellent! That is exactly how it should be done!

    • Excellent ! Amen ! i will copy n save this suggestion for further discussion with evil-minded Muslims….

      • @Dumbass Elo. Yours are some of the smartest comments I’ve ever seen on this blogsite–Maybe you should consider changing your blog name! BTY, I agree with you about ‘chrisla07’ comment and letter to Rev. Carson. That’s some good information to copy and save for future ref. Thank you, ‘chrisla07’!

  4. Carson’s lack of knowledge indicates that his head is where the sun don’t shine! Must have been trained at a McDonalds.

  5. If Islam is related to the father Abraham, then how is it that the Quar’an along with the Handith, call for Muslims to murder the people of the book? The descendants of Abraham are found in Jews and Christians. Those who murder the descendants of Abraham are then in effect murdering Abraham too. Moreover, to murder a Jew is to deny the promises of our Lord to Abraham! Only Satan would command one to murder the descendant of Abraham. Islam is clearly the ideology of Satan!

    • Yes, Indeed!
      Islam is the evil teaching of Cult of Muhammad. Once you are under its influence, there is only DEATH physically and Spiritually as the EXIT.

      Don’t play with arsenic fire of Islam…. be vigilant of those evil-minded Muslims that live among you. They are NOT what you think they are…
      they are evil. It is a matter of time, before they will show you their true colors. Believe me. I grew up with those Muslims. Nice folks, but under the evil clutches of SATANIC power – called Islam.

      • @Dumbass Elo. You are so right! Our first mistake is to invite these vermin-infested muzzie sickos into our communities! Their only agenda in befriending Americans is to open the door for spreading their damnable 7th century barbaric sharia law! Americans are so naïve, thinking ‘that could never happen here’–AND BLIND AND NAKED THEY’RE BEING LED TO THE SLAUGHTER!!!!! P.S. You’re no ‘dumbass’–that’s for sure!!!!

  6. Luther College in Decorah, Iowa gives classes in how we should love Islam. I ques they forgot Martin Luther said Mohamed was the anti Christ.

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