Canada: School lets Muslims skip mandatory music class, violates the sharia

Only Muslims are allowed to skip the class.

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Source: Mandatory music classes hit a bad note with some Muslim parents – The Globe and Mail  h/t Blazing

When music class begins this week at Toronto’s Donwood Park elementary school, Mohammad Nouman Dasu will send a family member to collect his three young children. They will go home for an hour rather than sing and play instruments – a mandatory part of the Ontario curriculum he believes violates his Muslim faith.

The Scarborough school and the Toronto District School Board originally had offered an accommodation – suggesting students could just clap their hands in place of playing instruments or listen to acapella versions of O Canada – but not a full exemption from the class.

After a bitter three-year fight, however, Mr. Dasu felt he had no other opton but to bring his kids home.

According to documents ob-tained by The Globe and Mail, some parents insist they cannot allow their children to be in the same room where musical instruments are being played. Mr. Dasu, a Koran teacher who sometimes leads prayers at Scarborough’s Jame Abu Bakr Siddique mosque, says he has led the fight on behalf of parents. He has consulted with national Islamic bodies, and requested a letter from the leader of his mosque.

“We here believe that music is haram [forbidden]. We can neither listen to it, nor can we play a role in it,” said the mosque’s imam, Kasim Ingar.

Conceding that Muslims have to adjust when they send their kids to public school, he suggested that some matters, such as teaching music, are beyond debate.

“We do not compromise with anyone on the clear-cut orders and principles conveyed by the Prophet,” said Mr. Ingar, who also leads the Scarborough Muslim Association.

Within Islam, the question of whether Muslims are banned from music is divisive and nuanced. Similar to questions about whether women should wear veils, there is no consensus on the issue.

But Ontario’s primary-school curriculum is unambiguous on music class: It must be taught, without exception, to all primary-school-aged children. Officials at the TDSB say they can only bend the rules to accommodate religious students, but not exempt them.

The Globe used freedom of information laws to access TDSB e-mails on how the issue evolved at Donwood Park, where it first surfaced in 2013.

The released records redact the names of students for privacy reasons, and very few families appear to have been adamant over pulling children from music classes. Early internal e-mails show administrators wanted to find “some common ground.”

But Mr. Dasu, who says he represents many of the parents at the school concerned about the issue, pushed for exclusion for his own children by invoking the prospect of litigation and the religious freedoms clause of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

In response, school administrators pitched an array of potential compromises. Records show one idea was to have the children “research the role of nashid” – or the Islamic tradition of oral music. Another was to have the children clap out quarter notes, half notes and full notes.

“Your children will not be required to play a musical instrument or sing in their music class,” read a formal note to at least one family.

The records show that as the standoff at Donwood Park lingered, TDSB officials prepared a media plan and sought legal advice from eminent lawyers, including Eric Roher of Borden Ladner Gervais.

They do not make clear how the situation was dealt with. But during the 2014 school year, two requests for music exemptions were made. When school officials struggled again to suggest accommodations, they were presented with a “Petition for Accommodation of Religious Beliefs of Muslim Students” signed by more than 130 parents, initiated by Mr. Dasu.

Mr. Dasu says he proposed alternative arrangements for his own children, which were rejected by the vice-principal, the superintendent, and a trustee of the school board, after which he decided to take them out of school for the duration of music and drama class.

By the spring of 2015, an interest group known as the National Council of Canadian Muslims was prodded by some parents to intercede further. After meeting with Donwood Park administrators, an NCCM spokeswoman referred them to a guide it has created for Canadian teachers. “Opinion regarding the place of music varies among different Muslim countries,” it says. But, it adds, “it is important for the school to discuss reasonable accommodations with the parents or guardians and the students themselves.”

TDSB officials wouldn’t discuss particular cases, but insist that religious students cannot cut themselves out of music class. “As per the Education Act, we can’t exempt students from the curriculum. But what we do is accommodate,” said John Chasty, a TDSB superintendent of education.

The TDSB says it does not keep track of the number of students who seek accommodations or exemptions. But Mr. Chasty believes the issue will come up there again in the coming school year.

Mr. Dasu has since moved to a different neighbourhood nearby, and is planning to transfer his children to a new public school. He says he will take up the fight again.

“My kids cannot participate in music or drama, that’s for sure. Let them sit in a library to read, or in an office, or let them volunteer around the school during that time, that’s all okay. We’re flexible.”


Flexible as an IED. This Islamic supremacist is taking his sharia-pushing act to another public school now.

The Toronto District School Board has been submitting to and enforcing the sharia for many years, posts here.

As the mayor of France said last week, “if you don’t want to live the way we do, don’t come!”

16 Responses

  1. SHARED TO MY PUBLIC FB WITH COMMENT:

    Mike Kiljom

    I WOULD LAUGH BUT IT IS NOT FUNNY!

    CANANDA IS PLAYING RIGHT INTO THEIR HANDS. NO ASSIMILATION, SHARIA LAW ONE TINY STEP AT A TIME! GO CANADA! HOPE YOU ENJOY BEING LIKE LONDON AND PARIS!

  2. How sad for these children to be denied music and joy in their lives.

  3. When Muslims take their children home to avoid the music class, my hope would be for the school to kick the kids out of school and keep their savage asses at home. I would go further and tell these Muslim malcontents to pack their belongings and deport them. Wow, it’s lucky for the Muslim savages that the Canada’s leaders (and America’s leaders) are so cowardly. It seems the great majority of people in the Western World want the savages out of their country while a tiny number of bureaucrats are so PC and act completely against the will of the majority.

    • I agree. Play by our rules or pack up and leave our country. Period. You can even post my email address. Let them come after me.

  4. The rats are our own liberals. Muslims are the fleas. Sharia is the plague.

  5. Wasn’t it just a few years ago when Muslims claimed they invented music?

  6. Only a matter of time before Canada becomes Candanastan. Instead grow a pair and tell them Sharia only exists in third world Muslim country’s. Do it before they get a foothold or Canada will ban music next.

  7. Mozart and Beethoven are halal? Who knew.

    • Mandatory means just that. No one should be exempted from music for any reason. Just because it isn’t the mindless drone of the Koran doesn’t mean it doesn’t inspire love of religion. If these people don’t want their kids to be exposed to Western ways then go back and raise your family in a Muslim country. The whole point of moving to a Western country is to give your children a free life.

      • That is simply your own opinion. The difference is we do not base our religion on what we “think” or “feel” is good. We based it on the source and if God and his messenger have forbidden a certain act, than it is to be avoided.

        There is nothing wrong with the government making a dispensation for those Muslims following their religion. Since school is not mandatory in itself it shouldn’t be a problem. I avoid these issues by home school my children. Actually a good portion of Muslim in Toronto are home schooling their children to avoid many of the immoral teachings in public school.

        • @Carole T. “Freedom” and “life” are concepts that most muslims simply cannot comprehend! The only thing they understand is oppression, submission and living in abject fear of their demon-god, allah! Moslems come here to our Western countries b/c they like the idea of “freedom”, but they refuse to be unshackled from their 7th century slave culture! It’s just that cut-n-dried! They ignorantly persist in serving their dead false prophet and non-existent false god. It’s really pitiful b/c here they have the TRUTH right up in their faces, if they will just see it, BUT THEY REJECT IT and curse and slander the messengers who might show them to the light of true “liberty and justice for all”. One thing I will concede however, is that we Westerners, i.e., Canadians and Americans, have NOT represented our culture with our best foot forward. This Abu Musa raises a valid point when he says that there are “immoral teachings” in our public schools. We have lost our way as a nation and as a culture–and when that happens, the void is inevitably filled with confusion and false doctrines. Islam claims to represent the truth–BUT NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH! ISLAM IS EVIL–ROTTEN TO THE CORE and needs to be exposed for all of it’s BLOODY HATRED, VIOLENCE AND DEATH! It’s just that cut-n-dried!!!!!

  8. Zzz. Well if you go by what the muslim is saying , then the muslim lies..
    They sing their prayers and quite often , depends where you go with Islam and muslims , they even put music to their prayers . And they do it over loud speakers.
    Then there’s the little dance parties that the men have all by themselves, hosted by , you guessed it music.
    So you see , in its obsurditity , this Muslim lies , TAQIYYA , to further the shariah creep called islam!

  9. To MUZZLUMZ everything that speaks of Western civilization and culture is HARAM! It’s all about living in FEAR of learning the “infidels’ ways”! They subscribe to only one way of life–SHARIA! Modern music, especially contemporary and/ or (God forbid) patriotic music is a Western form of BRAIN-WASHING! ‘We can’t have our little mo-hammer-heads learning to sing songs like “THE NATIONAL ANTHEM” or other songs that actually have a melody a story line!’ That would be INDOCTRINATION, don’cha know???

  10. “Within Islam, the question of whether Muslims are banned from music is divisive and nuanced. Similar to questions about whether women should wear veils, there is no consensus on the issue.”

    Actually the author is incorrect in this statement. Islamic law is based on the 4 Schools of law. Schools of law are under consensus about the Veil being obligatory. Also there is consensus on all musical instruments except the duff drum being permissible.

    • @Abu Musa. Pray tell, why THE HELL can’t you muzzlumz (intentionally misspelled)–why can’t you see the advantages of Western CIVILIZATION??? Tell me exactly what there is about following the misconceptions and literary plagiarisms of a 7th century misogynistic desert nomad Jew-hater? You say that you ‘home-school’ your children. Do you teach the “sacredness” of the JIHAD??? What about the ‘sharia’??? What about the commands to behead “infidels” (LIKE ME), and the INSANE punishments of chopping off hands and feet??? DON’T DENY THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT CRAP, Abu Musa, DON’T DENY IT–that would be LYING!!!!! Would you–as nearly all Middle Eastern moslems do–actually rejoice and celebrate, if one or more of your children BLEW THEMSELVES TO KINGDOM COME in an act of SUICIDE JIHAD??? STOP AVOIDING THE QUESTIONS, ‘Abu Musa’!!! You moslems are MASTERS, MASTERS, YES MASTERS OF DECEPTION AND UNTRUTHS! We Christians, YES WE CHRISTIANS, HAVE THE TRUTH OF FORGIVENESS AND SALVATION–you moslems don’t even know the meaning of “love and forgive your enemies”–YOU ARE COMPLETELY CLUELESS–and hopelessly LOST! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROTTING CORPSES! You are following a DEAD religion, invented by a DEAD (false) prophet and your god (that allah-thingy) IS NON-EXISTENT, or at best, he is a DEMON ENTITY!!!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOU B-HIND, Abu Musa!!!!! You are living in a civilized country, established by Western CHRISTIANS’ principles! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!! MOHAMMED IS DEAD AND SO IS THE FALSE DEITY THAT HE IMPOSED ON HIS 7th CENTURY SUBJECTS! CHRIST WILL SET YOU FREE–don’t you really want that????? Your mohammed is in HELL (as is everyone else who ever prayed to allah)! Will you follow him there too????? YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE, Abu Musa! GOD, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE, is speaking to your heart right now! HIS NAME IS JESUS!!!!! Please DO NOT answer this blog UNLESS you actually want to hear the TRUTH!!!! I WILL NOT DEBATE THE TRUTH! I’d be happy to lead you to Jesus, the CHRIST–THE ETERNAL LIVING SON OF THE LIVING GOD, who is KING of Kings and LORD of Lords– ABOVE ALL OTHER false gods!!!!! GOD, the God of the Bible, is a GOD of love–your allah is a god (falsely so-called) OF HATRED AND BLOODSHED!!!!!

  11. Recently the educational system in Toronto was under a fierce Islamic assault, to force infidels who are key decision makers in shaping young minds and spirits, to accept and tolerate the intolerance of the most “Perfect Religion” Allah imposed on humanity-Islam.
    Remember what happened in 2011 when Muslim fundamentalists, forced the TDSB to allow the use of a public secular educational institution as an arena where the will of Allah should unfold. Muslim students were allowed to convert every Friday the school’s cafeteria into a Mosque, and hold Friday prayers guided by a Muslim cleric. For more details about the tragedy of Valley Park Middle School, on Overlea Blvd, in The City of Toronto, check the following link:
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.ca/2011/10/open-letter-to-ywca-canada.html
    The most recent attack was initiated by a Quran/Koran teacher, an active member of a Scarborough Mosque, named Mohammad Nouman Dasu, who wanted his children to be exempted from music classes held at Toronto’s Donwood Park elementary school, based on a set of Islamic theological principles, that see a direct causal effect between listening to instrumental music and the corruption of the soul of children and their pursuit of pious activities that should be devoted to the praise of Allah-Subhanahu Wa Taala.
    Mr. Mohammad Nouman Dasu, a venerable Koran instructor, extremely well versed with the authoritative HADITH, and the fatwas of Moslem theologians, conveniently forgot the warnings of Ibn Taymiyyah the famous 12th century Hanbali theologian, the most frequently quoted by Sallafi and Islamic Jihadi movements, who insisted on the death punishment “when a Muslim selectively forsakes what he knows of the Book of God [The Koran] and of the sunna of his messenger and follows the ruling of a ruler which contravenes a ruling of God and his messenger, he is a renegade, an unbeliever who deserves to be punished in this world and in the hereafter.” Source: Michot, Yahya (2012). The Princeton Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought. Princeton University Press.
    Mr. Dasu, through the process of selective amnesia decided what should or shouldn’t be part of his children’s “Islamic Religious Piety Requirements”. He conveniently forgot that a “True Muslim” should stay in his native Muslim country instead of immigrating to a country like Canada, where the dominant social, educational, and legal values are based on a modern form of secularism rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition, not the Sharia advocated by Ibn Taymiyyah. He should have taken seriously the following warnings of Allah:
    “Believers, do not make friends with any men other than your own people. They will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is clear from what they say, but more violent is the hatred which their breasts conceal”. Koran 3:118

    “Satan has gained possession of The People of The Book (Jews and Christians) and caused them to forget Allah’s warnings. They are the confederates of Satan; Satan’s confederates shall assuredly be lost in hell. The Believers are the confederates of Allah (Hizbollah); and Allah’s confederates shall surely triumph”. Koran 58:19

    Instead of wasting valuable time cursing our educational system and insisting to decision makers of a publicly funded school that music is condemning the soul of his children to eternal damnation, it is never too late for Mr. Dasu to move back with the 130 parents who signed his petition to their ancestral Muslim countries, because ineluctably he and his loved ones will face eternal damnation as long as they stay in the land of The Koofar (Arabic for infidels-any human being who is not a Muslim) known as Canada, and selectively pretend to be the defenders of Islamic values. His destiny is clearly forewarned in the following Koranic verse:

    “Leave to me those that deny and use selectively this revelation. We will lead them step by step to their ruin, in ways beyond their knowledge”. Koran 68:44

    Based on the previous verse Mr. Dasu, or any pious Muslim, should not deny the following revelations that “blatantly spread hate” against Christians and Jews in particular, and all the Koofars of the world in general.
    “ Know that we send down to the unbelievers (Jews and Christians) Devils who incite them to evil. Therefore have patience: their days are numbered”.
    Koran 19:83 Christianophobia/Judeophobia

    “We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers (Jews and Christians). They serve other Gods for whom no sanction has been revealed. Hell shall be their home; dismal indeed is the dwelling place of the evil-doers”. Koran 3:151 Christianophobia/Judeophobia

    A verse often used by Muslim radicals to remind all Muslims that they have “Divine Intructions” and duty to exercise terror or engage in acts of terrorism, to kill indiscriminately innocent children, women, and seniors attending a wedding or using the public transit system to impose the will of Allah which is clearly the final triumph of the “Perfect Deen (Arabic for religion)”. After all Jews and Christians worship Gods that have not been sanctioned by the Allah of the “Perfect Deen”- Islam, and they are all classified as evil-doers who shall perish in an earthly hell of Muslim design, make, and timing.

    “Do you fear the unbelievers (Jews and Christians)? Surely Allah is more worthy of your fear. If you are true believers make war on them; Allah will chastise them through you and humble them. He will grant you victory over them and heal the spirit of the faithful”. Koran 9:14 Christianophobia/Judeophobia

    “Cast into hell every hardened unbeliever, every opponent from the people of the book (Jews and Christians), and every doubting transgressor who has set up another God besides Allah. Hurl him into the fierce tormenting flames of hell”. Koran 50:24 Christianophobia/Judeophobia

    Jews do not worship Allah. They worship Adonai and Elohim… Christians are no better. Their Allah is known as Christ. Suicide bombers use this verse to justify the blowing up of their explosive charges on buses and in a variety of public places frequented by Jews and Christians. By becoming a “Shahid” (Arabic for martyr) and securing a place in Allah’s heavenly kingdom, the suicide bomber is hurling his victims (hardened unbelievers) into the fierce tormenting flames of hell-the inferno created by the explosion in a confined space.

    And to all Canadian apologists/liberal useful idiots who believe that tolerance should remain one of the most distinct characteristics of our democracy, I invite them to reflect on the following statement of British novelist Dorothy Sayers:

    “In this world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called indifference, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.”

    Instead of advocating the tolerance of the most intolerant religion, we can at least suggest to Mr. Mohammad Nouman Dasu, that the best solution for him and likeminded parents will be to leave Canada and settle down with their families in one of the Afghan Provinces under TALIBAN control. Remember what The Taliban did in September 1996 when they entered the capital Kabul.
    The Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and Suppression of Vice (PVSV), between September and December 1996 closed all movie theaters and banned a variety of activities and electronic items: music, shaving of beards, keeping of pigeons, flying kites, displaying of pictures and portraits, Western hairstyles, music and dancing at weddings, gambling, “sorcery,” and not praying 5 times a day at prayer times publicly announced often meant severe beatings and long hospital stays. Satellite dishes, cinematography, and equipment that produces the joy of music, pool tables, chess, alcohol, tapes, computers, VCRs, televisions, were confiscated and burned in stadiums. In February 2001, Taliban used sledgehammers to destroy works of art at the National Museum of Afghanistan. And last but not least, in March 2001, the Taliban ordered the demolition of two statues of the Buddha carved into a Cliffside at Bamiyan. The savagery was condemned by The UN and many countries around the world, including Muslim countries.
    I am sure The Taliban will welcome Mr. Dasu and his entourage with open arms, and Canada will be free of a substantial number of fanatics who have nothing but contempt of our social values.
    Sonya Bourachaga

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