VP Pence Visits Mosque, Declares Indonesia’s ‘Moderate Islam an Inspiration to the World’

Vice President Mike Pence poses with, from left, his daughters Audrey and Charlotte, his wife Karen, the chairman of Istiqlal Mosque Muhammad Muzammil Basyuni and the Grand Imam of the mosque Nasaruddin Umar in Jakarta on April 20, 2017. (Adek Berry/Pool Photo via AP)

Source: Pence Declares Indonesia’s Islam ‘Inspiration to the World’

By Bridget Johnson

Vice President Mike Pence visited the Istiqlal mosque in Jakarta today during the first visit by a Trump administration official to Indonesia.

The Masjid Istiqlal, the largest mosque in southeast Asia that can accommodate 200,000 worshipers, is the same one President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama visited during Obama’s 2010 trip to the world’s most populous Muslim country.

As is custom, Pence removed his shoes while wife Karen Pence and daughters Audrey and Charlotte also donned headscarves.

The family met Grand Imam Haji Nasaruddin Umar and other officials, toured the prayer hall and saw how the five-times-a-day call to prayer is done.

Pence then joined and spoke at a closed-door interfaith dialogue with representatives from Christianity, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism and Islam.

At Merdeka Palace remarks with Indonesian President Joko Widodo before the mosque tour, Pence said President Trump “sent me here as a sign of the high value the United States places on our strategic partnership with Indonesia.”

“As the second and third largest democracies in the world, our two countries share many common values — including freedom, the rule of law, human rights, and religious diversity,” he said. “The United States is proud to partner with Indonesia to promote and protect these values, the birthright of all people.”

Pence talked about multiple areas of cooperation, including leveling the playing field “to ensure that American exporters can fully participate in the Indonesia market, the same freedom that Indonesia exporters have had in many sectors in the United States for many years.”

“The United States is also proud to be one of Indonesia’s oldest and most engaged defense partners. And under President Trump we are firmly committed to continuing to collaborate on the security of both of our peoples. A stronger defense partnership will serve us well as we confront the various security threats and challenges that we now face. And of course, one of the greatest threats we face is the rise and spread of terrorism,” he added.

“…Finally, with President Trump’s leadership, the United States intends to deepen our cultural ties with the nation and the good people of Indonesia. Later today I’m greatly humbled to have the privilege to visit Indonesia’s national mosque, where I’ll have the opportunity to speak with leaders of many faiths. And, Mr. President, I’m very much looking forward to that visit and that honor.”

Pence noted that “the largest majority Muslim country, Indonesia’s tradition of moderate Islam, frankly, is an inspiration to the world.”

“In your nation, as in mine, religion unifies — it doesn’t divide. It gives us hope for a brighter future, and we are all grateful for the great inspiration that Indonesia provides for the world,” the vice president added. “Rest assured, under President Trump, the United States welcomes all who share our values and strive for that brighter future.”

The population is Indonesia is about 87 percent Muslim, 7 percent Protestant, 3 percent Catholic, and less than 2 percent Hindu with other faiths including Buddhism and Confucianism making up the balance.

A quick look at some Creeping Sharia posts in the Indonesia category suggest Mike Pence is uninformed or lying through his teeth.

And for a more thorough look at Mike Pence’s moderate Islam in Indonesia check out the Indonesia archive at Jihad Watch.

Then again, this is the same Mike Pence who, just six days after two Muslims killed 14 Americans and wounded 22 more in San Bernardino, California, tweeted:

A reader responds: There is Nothing ‘Moderate’ About Female Genital Mutilation in Indonesia.

According to Dr. Meiwita Budiharsana, a lecturer and Faculty of Public Health at the University of Indonesia:

Around 60 million women, or half of the women in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim majority, is estimated to have undergone FGM.

According to data collated by UNICEF, between 2010 – 2015, forty-nine percent of girls in Indonesia up to age fourteen have been mutilated with continuing strong support from religious leaders and parents.

45 thoughts on “VP Pence Visits Mosque, Declares Indonesia’s ‘Moderate Islam an Inspiration to the World’

  1. This traitor who belonged in obama’s administration, NOT TRUMP’S, needs to be reminded that obama was schooled in Indonesia. So Pence, tell me how obama was “an inspiration to the world”, you freaking disgusting poor excuse for a vice president!

  2. I believe any time you start talking about islam being an inspiration to the world, and wanting to ‘unite’ the religions of the world as tho they all worship the same god (which in reality they do , Satan being the god of this world)..
    Then you have declared openly your rejection of the True God of the bible …..

    • Actually, Pence stated that “moderare” Islam was the inspiration, because it degrades radical Islam. He was standing in the only Islamic ally land that the USA has ever been able to rely upon. He was surrounded by leaders of every other major religion as well as Muslims.

    • Thank you Barbara! Please keep telling people that satan is the god of this world…for now. And here’s the verse to spread this….

      So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9

      Satan has man make many different bibles, with God’s words changed, and made many different religions, for people to fight and argue about who’s right, and who’s wrong…..and people fall for it…sad.

  3. More of the same old same old. What, exactly, does the Islamic world hold over us that our Western politicians keep kowtowing to them? There is no moderate Islam. Never has been, never will be. This was a disgusting display of submission by our VP and his family.

  4. If you have followed my comments on this site, you know I am 100% anti-Sharia and anti-Islam.

    However, I do have Muslim friends in the Philippines that are too. They are from Indonesia, but call themselves, “Modern Muslims”…they do not wear any Muslim clothing or head scarfs, etc. They do NOT ascribe to Muslim takeover and Sharia.

    My “Modern Muslim” friends will also be at my wedding there in September.

    Indonesia’s government is secular. And, the society, by law is as well…although Muslims make up the largest percentage of the population.

    Until recently, Muslims and Christians lived side by side. BUT, since the rise of ISIS, militant Muslims have been attacking Christian places and even services.

    Surprisingly. Christmas is a big deal in Indonesia…enjoyed by Muslims and Christians and almost all other religions. Go into some malls and you’d think you were in America at Christmas time. However, militant Muslims have been attacking those places and tearing down some displays.

    What the militant Muslims are doing is against Indonesian law. But, honestly, many times the police are slow to act, if at all. They are either in agreement or just too scared.

    Overall, Indonesia is the most moderate of any nation, dominated by a Muslim population.

    What else would you expect Pence to say as he was an invited guest of Indonesia?

    In case you forgot, Pence is 100% pro-Christian and pro-America!

      • Exactly right, feralcatsblog! You can’t praise someone who reads and acts on a book that says to kill over 109 times, the unbeliever, a person who won’t convert to islam. I can’t praise someone who would blow themselves up. for their religion. Who cuts off hands, heads, etc…this is more like satanism…a cult…
        We can’t praise satan! Or his followers! But we can TRY to tell them about the love of Jesus Christ!

        “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)

        to choose this day whom they would serve, I set before you life or death, blessings or cursings, choose life. Deut 30

        do not call upon other gods, dont even mention their names, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves to them. Joshua 23:7

    • Only a damned fool has “Muslim Friends”! ‘Slimes are existential enemies, not friends, nor allies neither are they partners.
      3:28, 3:118, 4:89, 4:139, 4:144, 5:51, 5:57, 58:14, 58:22, 60:1, 60:13
      Equal and inferior relations with infidels are expressly forbidden to ‘slimes!

    • If Indonesian government and law are secular, what in the name of sanity was the necessity of a visit by the VP and his lavishing slobbering praise upon the arguably most evil organization in the modern world?

      • Good point, George. Exalting any God except the Lord Jesus Christ is a gross sacrilege! Pence should never have connected with the religious aspects of Indonesia! His visit should have been strictly social and secular! I’m truly appalled that he embraced islam in this way! I thought his Christian convictions were stronger than that!!!!!

        And to Nisha Roady, I’m sorry but you are way out there in left field! “Loving our enemies” is NEVER meant to be an endorsement of their evil deeds! By your standard of “ethics” we should all just make our peace with the devil–THEN HE WOULD JUST LEAVE US ALONE, RIGHT?????

  5. Removing your shoes in a mosque is saying, “I humble myself before this God.” Remember when Moses had to remove his sandals before Jehovah, “I AM”, because it was holy ground? No Christian should ever humble themselves before Allah.

      • Satan is a “god”, yip yap! God is God??? You have no idea about the God of the bible, just the evil satan of the koran!

        Satan was put on this earth, along with his followers….tell me where that is in the bible, IF YOU CAN!!

        • Sorry, but Satan is not a god, he was kicked out if heaven by God, he is an angel, not a God. There are those who would profess he is, because they either knowingly, or unknowingly wirship him

          • I believe you haven’t read the bible?

            the “god of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.” 2 Corinthians 4:4

            ….But your right, he CAN CHANGE himself into an angel, to fool people who don’t believe in the real GOD!

            For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)

            …..And if you don’t believe he will call himself “god” in the endtimes, during the tribulation, you will be joining him….

            Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that HE AS GOD sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that HE IS GOD.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

            …please don’t be fooled, when he (a man on this earth) show’s miracles and signs

            Rev 13:13 And he doeth great WONDERS, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the EARTH in the site of men.
            13:14 And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the EARTH by the means of those MIRACLES which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;….

            Please join the real God, Jesus Christ, before you are fooled!!

      • God is God, Allahu Shaytan!!! I have proof!!!

        If we worshiped yer demon, he’d have nothing to worry aout at Badr! Ref. Bukhari 4.52.164

  6. Pence is a politician. Politicians are full of shit. They always promise gold and deliver excement :( We had better choices for nominees.

  7. I’m disappointed and saddened that this thread has been taken over by people with rapid dog reactions and blinded by wrong minded notions about Christianity.

    I’m wondering if some here are the same that believe the Earth is only around 5000 years old.

    If this is the way some think, we are doomed when it comes to fighting Sharia and saving America.

    BTW: I usually agree with the links posted on this site, but this time, the writer was way out of line for making a non-issue out of the VP’s visit to Indonesia.

    • Showing respect to Satan in his synagogue is not a non-issue! No person with self respect, fidelity to Jesus Christ and our nation will ever obey the strictures of sharia! Far better to keep your head uncovered, your feet shod and stay out of the devil’s dens!

  8. Cant help but wonder if maybe Pence belongs to a lukewarm church, one that God warned us about in the bible. Many do not even know they are following the wrong path. Many are quick to judge here. Those who are christian, should seek answers through prayer and search the bible for answers. If not, your choice

  9. As much as I despise islam and everything it stands for, I also know that our Western leaders are of necessity, required to walk a thin tight rope. Before the November election, everyone was running around like a headless chicken, saying that “Trump is a wild, shoot-from-the-hip type of guy!” Now we are seeing his diplomatic side in this trip by VP Pence. I disagree with the kowtowing, i.e., removal of shoes and wearing of headscarves, because it exults a false god and a false oppressive religion. I believe VP Pence should have declared himself as a Christian and politely refused to remove his shoes! Likewise his wife and daughters…..

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